God forbid, but I think some people are learning. Ran a coupla 85 randoms and there was CC, group cohesion, and other long lost elements unseen since the dawn of heroic blood forge.

My hope is small but lively.

 

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Quit blaming PUGs.

There is way too much gratuitous damage in instances now. Simply put its a dick move by the developers. They decided that they wanted people to make use of their new spells and damn if they don't make the old spells so damn expensive as to force you into it. Then they top it off by over doing the gratuitous group damage.

Oh I know, let the stupid DPS die, yeah, like we need one less and wipe because we have only four up. This is all about developers wanting something and damn well engineering a system where they will get it. Leave mechanics like that to raids, don't need people dropping what they like and doing only DPS. I don't care if Cata healing was not challenging enough, it gave the rest of us something else we could do. Now its like, "oh you can heal..." well thats all we want you to do, provided you measure up to our level of idiocy.

Glad to see Paladins finally got whacked.

 

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My only problem with the situation is that blizzard told healers "OMG L2P ur cl4ss!!!1". Fine. I was already careful with my heals before Cata i have no problem with that. BUT let's add something to make tank and dps play better.

My opinion is reversing and I was one of the "oh shut up if its hard" people before.Â


Personally, I think Blizzard f***ed up, and this will become evident in a few more weeks in my opinion.Â


First, they made the healing too much of a pain in the ass for people and it is begining to show in how assholish a lot of the healers are behaving. It isn't their fault, they are just cranky. Obviously, one button healing sucked too, but... if everybody is complaining, maybe there is a bit of an issue?


Second, I think the average person will find Heroics to be too hard overall. People consider this fun at the start, but once the boring old loot grind starts for Justice Points people are going to hate this and I think it will become brutal for a lot of people. The casual crowd will be pushed out because of this.Â


For example, we wiped 4 times today on the first pull in Halls of Origination Heroic. Ok, this isn't a super hard pull but if you don't have a Mage in your group and your healer is being an asshole who refuses to heal DPS that take damage, this becomes a tough encounter because even with interrupts, you take massive AOE damage.


That is one example. I have run other almost "perfect" Heroic runs without any issues, but it seems like most people have no patients OR are over whelmed OR are just clueless. Now, we don't need this to appeal to Joe-Idiot, but maybe they over tweaked...


We will see what happens in a few weeks, but I think a lot of people are going to be frustrated and once the newness wears off, I don't think the Cataclysm Grind will have the legs that WotLK had.

 

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Thanks for the update Mithan.


/waiting to see WHEN Blizz starts tweaking

 

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Whaa! WoW is faceroll!!! wait... Whaa! Wow is too hard!!

A gross oversimplification, to be sure, but still funny.

 

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We should have had a "Blizzard backs off its healing changes" pool thread here months ago.

My money is changes announced sometime the week after Christmas, implemented beginning of second week in January.

And they will be severe, because this Dev B team doesn't have any clue how to move towards a positive change, only able to do massive wide ranging blot out the sun type changes that take weeks or months to finally get to the bottom of to resolve the next set of problems.

 

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I've been working on a portal mage on my second account, farming to build crafting and enjoy learning the new lands; so I have not been running instances. I ran one with friends this Sat. and decided to use my shaman healer. We had a few deaths but mostly from people doing stupid stuff. The last boss was kind of strange.


I was healing but seeing little effect. I could see the heal numbers but people's bar health did not improve much. I was thinking it was just something they tossed in for this one encounter but now I'm starting to worry.


I have a lot of DPS players and my tanks and healers are duel spec'ed for DPS. I was intending to learn the instances by healing; as the job did not use to change much in the old instances. My worry is that the healing will not scare with the large increase in health and damage. If this is true we are in for a rough ride. Queues are already long and starting to get longer. How long will players pay to sit?


Warrior tanks were becoming borderline unplayable and surely not fun. If they repeat that with healers I don't see much future in playing. The game was fun. The game should be focused on having fun. I'm worried that the developers are getting into a US vs Players mode. They might win but winning could prove costly.

 

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Fist,

the healing and not seeing the bars move... get used to it. It's annoying as hell to see I just spent a tenth of my mana on a heal and see the tanks health rise, and then only fall back to where it was in half a second before I can even get halfway through my next heal.

I finally ran a throne of tides as an 83 pali healer with a 85 dk tank in a pug. It wasn't easy, wasn't all that hard either... but it wasn't fun at all. In fact after I got done with the dungeon (with no upgrades for me at all) I honestly didn't feel like questing and leveling with my pali again tonight. I switched to my 66 mage since she is a bit of fun to actually play.

And I too fell like the devs have gotten an us versus them mentality and honestly, no good ever comes out of that.

WoW is the tops right now, and honestly no other game can knock it off it's pedestal. So if it starts to decline and go down the tubes, it will only be from the devs own doing.