/agree. As I've said here before, they could have easily squeezed 20 levels each out of Outlands and Northrend had they chosen to do so. As it stands now with both BC and WOTLK areas, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to bother with at least 50% of the content in those expansions simply because you can outlevel them so quickly.

I realize that my point of view on this isn't shared by everyone, particularly those who detest the MMO "grind," but for me the "grind" is fun. I like experiencing the content while at the same time feeling as though I am progressing. Just doing the content for the sake of doing it, ie, running Wailing Caverns at level 60, isn't fun to me. In that regard, despite the stuff I got to experience I still feel somewhat ripped off by both of those expansions. $40 is way too much to charge for content that can be completed in mere weeks. IMHO.





Agreed again, and this goes back to my previous post. $40 for an expansion that gives you 5 additional levels? Really?

And before the flames arrive: It's not that I can't afford it. It's that it simply wasn't (isn't) worth it. Not when you can spend a few dollars more and get a completely new game.





This is my biggest gripe with every WoW expansion, though admittedly I'm not sure how to fix it.

 

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I suppose you killed all the raid bosses too (not heroic mode, since it's more of the same only harder, but normal mode)?



Mmhh it's not clear here... did you buy Cataclysm, or are you just judging it without even having seen it?

 

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Once I sat down and started doing it, I was 85 within a few days. I didn't do every raid boss, no. Whether or not I personally completed it has no bearing on the fact that plenty of people have and the expansion is, what, 3 months old?

There have been plenty of times when I actually stopped to smell the roses in order to feel like I was getting my money's worth.





Yes I bought Cataclysm. I'm sorry if my assessment hurt your feelings. Really, I am. Hopefully it doesn't detract from your fun. You're still l33t @ WoW brah!

 

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Point being, you complain the expansion is too small when you didn't do all the content of it... thanks for clearing that up. It's a bit like complaining at the restaurant that you don't get enough food for your money even if your plate is still half full.



There's no feeling problem, I was just double checking if you really played it before dismissing it, since it wasn't clear at all in your previous post. Thanks for clearing that up too. And no, it doesn't detract from my fun at all, to the opposite. Sorry for not answering the last sentence, I only read and write English, German, French, and some Spanish and Italian.

 

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How can a person complain about conent when we haven't even got to patch 4.1 yet?

 

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If anything, Rift made me appreciate Blizzard's quest system more. I was a bit "burned out" with it, but once you leveled one character through Rift's content and small cramped world, you realize how superior WoW's leveling content is and always was.

 

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Don't level strictly through quests in Rift, problem solved.

And I don't see how WoW does anything different with quests. It's all the same BS, except in WoW you get to shoot a cannon or some s**t on occasion.

 

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Because grinding rifts brings so much variety... ah yeah, the advertised fake "dynamic world", where once the rift (aka random mob spawn point) is gone, nothing has changed. Very dynamic indeed. Even Anarchy Online, a very old game now, has a more dynamic world than Rift, with its "Notum Wars". At least there, parts of the world really change hands when guilds conquer them, and then guild can extract the resources until another guild eventually attacks and takes over. The world durably CHANGES due to player actions. That's a dynamic world - and not random monster generators spawning at predefined spots on the map, which are just another form of spawn points, nothing less, but also nothing more, since once they are gone, the world is still exactly like it was before they spawned.



It's pretty obvious to people who leveled in both games. LOTRO too has way better quests than Rift, by the way, not only WoW.

My opinion is that in a couple of months, Rift will be just another Warhammer, with a core fan base playing but most having left for something else (including their previous game). Unless Trion have a major ace up their sleeves, which I doubt.

The answer is to the OP title question anyway.
Did WoW finally meet it's match?
Definitely not, not even remotely close.

 

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