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Taliesihne  Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
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The notion that alcoholism isn't real is similarly retarded.
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Coriolus  Title: Outpost Ice Mexican
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Registered: 2002-5-17 06:20:48
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Here is my impression of an outposter who goes to see their doctor aftwer reading this article:
Outposter: "Hi I am pretty sure anti-depressants aren't working so I would like to try a placebo"
MD: "  "
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Coriolus Title: Outpost Ice Mexican
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Registered: 2002-5-17 06:20:48
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Thugoneous posted:
Alcohol doesn't get you drunk. Placebo effect all the way.
Tell that to the North American Natives..
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eodoll Posts: 1,028
Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
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Real as in based on real ailment or imagined ailment. Real aiment includes physical trauma or chemical imbalance, imagined is anything in the mind. That doesnt mean you dont feel real pain but the fix for a purely memtal problem can be fixed by a placebo while a real trauma cant be.
Most problems are mind based, we are overmedicated.
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Crooq_Lionfang  Title: Master Zergling
Posts: 185
Registered: 2003-3-11 11:53:17
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Coriolus posted:
Eager_Igraine posted:
When you say depression can usually be treated in ways other than medication, what you are also saying is that some times depression can only be treated by medication. Which I totally agree with.
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No I'm not and not it doesn't
The key is your use of the word "usually". you imply with it that there are times you see as unusual where it can't be treated in ways other than medication. Conclusion: there are times when medication is the only thing that helps
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Coriolus Title: Outpost Ice Mexican
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Registered: 2002-5-17 06:20:48
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Crooq_Lionfang posted:
Coriolus posted:
Eager_Igraine posted:
When you say depression can usually be treated in ways other than medication, what you are also saying is that some times depression can only be treated by medication. Which I totally agree with.
/hth
No I'm not and not it doesn't
The key is your use of the word "usually". you imply with it that there are times you see as unusual where it can't be treated in ways other than medication. Conclusion: there are times when medication is the only thing that helps
I'm familiar with the nuances of 'usually', thx, but you are implying I meant that and I am telling you I didn't.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Kjarhall posted:
Coriolus posted:
depression ... is usually an indication of some underlying issue like nutritional deficiencies.
sweeny_comodore posted:
a majority of the problems arent real.
Stupid +
eodoll posted:
That said, some pain is not real. Some pain is imagined while some is physical or chemical.
Placebos work on the imagined pain not on real physical or chemically induced pains.
If a person feels it, it's real. Choose a better word, perhaps - mentally induced pain. And placebos have improved physical ailments. The power of the mind doesn't only work on mental pain.
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fybromyalgia is "real pain".
its the pains you have when you climb out of in the morning after sleeping wrong.
or in your knees from walking incorrectly. etc...
do drugs treat this? or better posture and proper shoes
are drugs ever going to be able to fix the problem? or placebos?
make up a condition and invent drugs to "cure" it instead of trying to understand the reality of it.
ADD is "real" enough.
rather than telling parents to discipline their kids we invent a "condition" with its own slew of drugs to "treat" it.
the entire point of this article was that drugging people is almost never the answer for their ailments.
and its morons like you who think that because someone "feels wrong" drugs must be a correct response.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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1/1/00 12:01am
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You can't divide things that way. It doesn't make any sense.
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Kjarhall Title: The Pungent One
Posts: 915
Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
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sweeny_comodore posted:
the entire point of this article was that drugging people is almost never the answer for their ailments.
and its morons like you who think that because someone "feels wrong" drugs must be a correct response.
And the entire point of the rebuttal is that you're wrong, sometimes drugs are the best course, sometimes other treatments are better, and sometimes it's a combination of things. And, a positive mental state will help any of those courses.
It's morons like you that can't grasp that when someone says youre wrong it doesn't mean they're arguing the exact oppposite must be the only truth.
The rest of your post is just  . ADHD, for example, might be overdiagnosed but it does exist, and for some (not all, probably not even most) drugs will help.
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Thugoneous Title: Watching Caliente, BRB.
Posts: 1,128
Registered: 2002-11-2 18:00:54
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1/1/00 12:01am
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Alcoholism is a thinly veiled excuse to beat your spouse.
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