Meddyck posted:

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FWIW these are the 2 things of the ones I listed that are most significant for me. I'm actually still playing DAOC but these reasons are why I will jump ship when GW 2 or SWTOR comes out and probably never come back.

- People/guilds you used to play with quit so now you have to pug or solo.
- You're sick of the endless campaign / re-itemization grind and the resulting need to constantly redo your templates.

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Meddyck posted:

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Here's what I think are the major reasons:


- The game is 9 years old and you just need a change of pace.

- People/guilds you used to play with quit so now you have to pug or solo.

- Things have changed in your real life so you can no longer play as much, spend the time needed to keep your template up-to-date, afford a buff bot, etc.

- You used to play on a smaller server/cluster and find Ywain too zergy and the quality of soloing, small manning, and 8v8ing much less good.

- You are pissed off at all the numerous problems that Mythic never bothers to fix (Halloween moon, WS/con poison, warping pets, the Camelot Herald, the lag and ghosting, etc.), the seemingly random changes they make to screw players over (BG spellcrafting), or the things they promised to do but haven't (remove -Ywain#).

- You're sick of the endless campaign / re-itemization grind and the resulting need to constantly redo your templates.

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CrzyHawk posted:

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I agree with this. I've found fun in other aspects of the game as time has gone by. Back in the OF days, I was an 8v8er on Tristan. I hated zergs and people who zerged, called em no talent trash (I save that for Warlocks these days) etc etc. Over time, I've gotten to the point where I don't care about my RPs anymore, don't care about being the best, don't care about being respected, I certainly don't want to put in WORK for any of those things...I just wanna come home after a long day at work and blow shit up. I'm perfectly content with being a trashy zerger.


I've also found new people to play with. For a long time, I avoided finding new people because it always hurt a little when they left. As someone who's been around since beta, I've lost more then my fair share of friends in this game. But it always seems I make a few new friends too, regardless of whether I am PVEing, playing in the BGs, zerg surfing, pugging, whatever. And while I don't have the same old memories with these new guys, they are every bit as good to hang out with as the old ones were, and in many cases better.


Furthermore, I've realized that back in my 8v8 days, I was part of the problem. I needed those baddies that I looked down on back then. They kept my server alive, and gave me a source of RPs. My elitism, 8 man groups that could roll the causal guy who worked a hard day then came home to play a few hours to relax, helped drive them out of the game.


That casual guy has a right to have fun playing too, and it was impossible given what the elite tend to do to those who aren't. There's a sense that if you can, you should...and this imo has helped to kill the game. Hindsight is 20/20 *shrug*.

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