VaultNetwork.netVault Network Boards
Author Topic: ML10 Prices (Take note JohnT/Kai) [Locked]
smakadopolis
Posts: 28
Registered: 2008-9-1 11:15:51
I'd disagree with ml10 stuff being something you "need". I do fine in RvR vs people in shiney ml10 gear with my awesome ghetto scale junk. Its not needed. Most of the people that need 10 of these thiings are just poison whores anyways. Here's my proposal to fix your problem: add a x second fumble debuff for swapping, or add an immunity to poisons after they've been purged or dropped. Then you won't have to swap as often and you won't need 40 astral blades in your bags

Tl:dr -- These items aren't "needed" for RvR. That's a lie
And
Poisons suck

 

-----signature-----
-Smakavel/Caligon/Danob/Terrif/Regor or some variation of-
-Hands of Fate/Hands of Fate II/Uruz-
-"Im not good. Im not bad. I just am. "-
Vyxar  2 stars
Title: Arbiter Elegantiarum
Posts: 329
Registered: 2002-3-13 04:54:08
I have no problem doing challenging pve if it's me that has to do it.

I do have a problem with it if it means I have to have 16-24 people who I don't know, don't trust, don't want to know and could otherwise not care less about.

The endgame pve in this game got abandoned for RvR. That was a huge mistake as there are more mmo players who pve than RvR. It's further worsened by the fact that what uber pve they did do they made damn near requisite to rvr which !@#$@$%w3ed up rvr which drove away a huge number of people who were individually willing to do X pve to get to rvr but not put up with raid style crap.

The interaction between the pve player who will do some rvr and the rvr player who will do some pve is something that they need to get someone who gets it on board and LISTEN and stop the nonsense of pitting them against each other and/or alienating one or the other with core game design decisions.

 

-----signature-----
Vyxar
Master Eldritch
Shadow Legacy
12,11,11,11,10,10,10,9,8,7,7,7,6,6,6,6,5 etc...
Marubaloobalah - "Mediocre people that don't know they are mediocre are like the homosexual to your hate crime."
Aliciaday  2 stars
Title: Camelot Vault Staff
Dragon Junkie

Posts: 277
Registered: 2007-2-28 16:34:34
Corfel posted:

This thread has nothing to do with dying in rvr...
did you read it?
It has to do with the length of PVE required and the cost of items in order to RVR...
RVR being the main aspect of this game~



Yep, I read it, and it is about dying in RVR. You want the ultimate template to maximize your damage while keeping you alive, and you want it "easy mode"...handed out to everyone so that we can have cookie cutter characters. How boring is that gonna be? Just wait a little while, someone will develop better templates that aren't filled with ml10 gear. There's ALWAYS a better template! Thats one of the awesome things about this game. You can customize your toons to your liking so that every luri hero is not exactly alike!

Some people do enjoy both sides of the game...sometimes the zerg on zerg on zerg gets monotonous and a little PVE/farming can be fun. I do agree that they have gone a little over the top with making the dragons and ml10 harder. They did need to be revamped because a dragon should not be able to be killed with 3 people...but to need 30+ is a bit much.

 

-----signature-----
Aliciaday, Kelanai & all her alts, wish you all happy gaming
before she dies...ooops too late! Oh well, dying IS what I do best!
http://vnboards.ign.com/daoc_general_board/b5176/111604406/p1/?0
http://gimpchimp.etilader.com/s.php?u=Aliciaday
Vyxar  2 stars
Title: Arbiter Elegantiarum
Posts: 329
Registered: 2002-3-13 04:54:08
Aliciaday posted:

Corfel posted:

This thread has nothing to do with dying in rvr...
did you read it?
It has to do with the length of PVE required and the cost of items in order to RVR...
RVR being the main aspect of this game~



Yep, I read it, and it is about dying in RVR. You want the ultimate template to maximize your damage while keeping you alive, and you want it "easy mode"...handed out to everyone so that we can have cookie cutter characters. How boring is that gonna be? Just wait a little while, someone will develop better templates that aren't filled with ml10 gear. There's ALWAYS a better template! Thats one of the awesome things about this game. You can customize your toons to your liking so that every luri hero is not exactly alike!

Some people do enjoy both sides of the game...sometimes the zerg on zerg on zerg gets monotonous and a little PVE/farming can be fun. I do agree that they have gone a little over the top with making the dragons and ml10 harder. They did need to be revamped because a dragon should not be able to be killed with 3 people...but to need 30+ is a bit much.



Sorry but you are totally wrong. It's not even about RvR and PvE it's about having to do a type of PvE that is stupid and unfixably broken in nature. People who want to be leet in RvR are willing to do the work to become so. But rounding up people for a raid that you don't know and won't know and are increasingly likely to be there to rip you off or fight with you about the items you need is asinine. Epic Raid type pve requires some kind of community. Hey if there was enough of it that entire guilds could exist by doing it that would be a great idea but like I said they made a horrible decision by making uber pve overly impact rvr then compounded it by basically killing off the end game pve aspect of daoc and those people who would make pve guilds to raid with went and played other games.

 

-----signature-----
Vyxar
Master Eldritch
Shadow Legacy
12,11,11,11,10,10,10,9,8,7,7,7,6,6,6,6,5 etc...
Marubaloobalah - "Mediocre people that don't know they are mediocre are like the homosexual to your hate crime."
GardianAngel  2 stars
Posts: 333
Registered: 2003-7-29 21:47:48
Merchants would be awesome if we could make all items 100 plats.

The problem is not all of them are worth 100 plats.


Would get some $ out of the game.


I also think every mob should drop 1bp and 1 glass on every kill

in addition to current drops rates (extra).


Poisons are out of whack and so is composite envenom. Even assassins

know this. They don't want it super nerfed and we all know mythic is

not going to just fix it right.


TL;dr merchants would be ok if priced right. Poisons suck.

 

-----signature-----
Gardian Angel 50 Paladin
Gardina 50 Warrior
K 73% A 60% S 47% E 27% Ywain?
Hammer 50 Thane
Louden 50 Skald
Kedali-Pellinor  1 star
Posts: 118
Registered: 2003-4-28 03:48:32
Imo they should just add Draco to the energy turn in list. Not a full drop, but just make it so you can get one random piece of astral gear for something like 20 energies. Could be a mace of impedence, could be a conflag. Would normalize the astral gear prices at about 20p, which is fairly reasonable imo.

 

-----signature-----
Valleriee - RR11 Cleric
Aliciaday  2 stars
Title: Camelot Vault Staff
Dragon Junkie

Posts: 277
Registered: 2007-2-28 16:34:34
GardianAngel posted:

Merchants would be awesome if we could make all items 100 plats.
The problem is not all of them are worth 100 plats.

Would get some $ out of the game.

I also think every mob should drop 1bp and 1 glass on every kill
in addition to current drops rates (extra).

Poisons are out of whack and so is composite envenom. Even assassins
know this. They don't want it super nerfed and we all know mythic is
not going to just fix it right.

TL;dr merchants would be ok if priced right. Poisons suck.



Problem with this is...who's gonna have $100 plat to buy the items if the mob is no longer farmed, and the items are no longer exclusive to farming? (and not talking about macro farmers here). There are still a number of people in game willing to spend the time do the raids/farm mobs to get items that are in demand via template builders. If the items are all put up on easy mode...the farming stops...so does the cash flow.


Now back to bed w me..................................strep is nasty

 

-----signature-----
Aliciaday, Kelanai & all her alts, wish you all happy gaming
before she dies...ooops too late! Oh well, dying IS what I do best!
http://vnboards.ign.com/daoc_general_board/b5176/111604406/p1/?0
http://gimpchimp.etilader.com/s.php?u=Aliciaday
ugo_phelix  1 star
Posts: 111
Registered: 2005-3-20 12:57:42
Seriously though... has anyone actually ever had REAL trouble getting their hands on an ml10 item? Except at their initial revamped inception?

 

-----signature-----
NF - Kitez Hunter | Runecarvinz RM
CV - Garrotez SB | Farsightz Eld | Slingz Theurg
Vids - http://tinyurl.com/kitez
Idealistgamer  2 stars
Posts: 274
Registered: 2011-1-9 21:38:25
You all make me laugh now. So long have many of you bashed me for my ideas and now look at this thread, lol

 

-----signature-----
A zerg is more than 8 so stop your crying.
Evolution is inevitable. Get over it!
http://img201.imageshack.us/f/featuresi.jpg/
Thak0r  1 star
Posts: 170
Registered: 2009-7-21 02:56:50
Idealistgamer posted:

You all make me laugh now. So long have many of you bashed me for my ideas and now look at this thread, lol



yeah, because your stupid ideas just plain suck - and now get out of here and troll for attention at hello kitty forums. ty, bye.

 

-----signature-----
Thakirion, Eld, 11L4 | Troikhan, BM, 11L5
Wulfher, Hero, 11L1, Lone Enforcer
Rahjan, VW, 9L2 | Thakisa, Ment, 9Lx
Thumb, Ranger, 8Lx | Ignitez, NS, 7Lx | Thallak, Warden, 7Lx
http://gimpchimp.etilader.com/s.php?u=Thaki

VaultNetwork.net is an independently operated community forum and is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or technically based on IGN, GameSpy, FilePlanet, GameStats, or the former IGN/GameSpy Vault Network.
References to VaultNetwork.net mean this site/domain. VNBoards-style presentation is a visual homage only. By using this site, you agree to the forum rules.