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Szerek  Posts: 338
Registered: 2000-8-8 09:26:09
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Not having relegation makes American sports stale |
Cawlin posted:
Unprepared is one thing.
Making the comparison of your adult rec league team to Chelsea is about an "unprepared" team going against a pro team.
Putting Penn State (a very well prepared team) against the Pittsburgh Steelers (a very well prepared team) would be dangerous to most of the players on Penn State's team. They simply aren't big enough or strong enough to stand up to the punishment that the Steelers entire team could dish out.
Meanwhile, put Penn State's D-1 soccer team (well prepared) against Chelsea (well prepared) and you're looking at nowhere near the same disparity in size/strength/speed nor danger to Penn State's soccer players. You'll see a huge disparity in talent, yes, but not in physical fitness and preparedness.
What about say, LSU or Alabama against say, the Colts?
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Cawlin  Posts: 1,759
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Taliesihne posted:
Penn State would go home in stretchers as well.
The disparity is just as stark in soccer as it is in football. Not so sure what's so hard to grasp about this.
LOL stop.
Dude I like soccer, I do. I think sometimes you forget that about me and argue at me as if I'm some sort of NFL die hard, but I'm not. I think you're just trying to find something there that isn't with this whole comparison.
American football is about hitting other players. Not even Rugby or Hockey are as focused on that specific thing as the NFL is.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
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I wouldn't be discussing this with you if I had forgotten about your semi-fondness for the sport. I would be trolling you.
And yes, the potential for injury is just as high putting the Pen State Soccer Team on the field with Chelsea as putting Oklahoma State on the same field as the Packers.
Add in money and something to play for and either game would be a bloodbath.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
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Taliesihne posted:
I wouldn't be discussing this with you if I had forgotten about your semi-fondness for the sport. I would be trolling you.
And yes, the potential for injury is just as high putting the Pen State Soccer Team on the field with Chelsea as putting Oklahoma State on the same field as the Packers.
Add in money and something to play for and either game would be a bloodbath.
I dunno man, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Or Lobby to make it happen.
I would pay money to see Chelsea use Penn State soccer as cleat picks.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
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Taliesihne posted:
Or Lobby to make it happen.
I would pay money to see Chelsea use Penn State soccer as cleat picks.
LOL! Why? Seriously though?
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Szerek Posts: 338
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Here is something very interesting I found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_All-Star_Game
Apparently up until 1976 the Champ (Superbowl or otherwise) played a group of Collge All-stars (presuming they were the all americans) in a pre-season game.
The pro champs had a record of 23-9-2 against the College all stars.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Cawlin posted:
LOL! Why? Seriously though?
If I had to pick a team to watch Chelsea obliterate, it would be Tech, William and Mary or the Gamecocks.
But we were talking about Penn State - adding the collegiate soccer rivalries would have confused things methinks.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
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Szerek posted:
Here is something very interesting I found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_All-Star_Game
Apparently up until 1976 the Champ (Superbowl or otherwise) played a group of Collge All-stars (presuming they were the all americans) in a pre-season game.
The pro champs had a record of 23-9-2 against the College all stars.
Interesting. Remember that pro football was a different game all those decades ago, but also remember that a team of college all stars is probably a team of players who almost all would be making the NFL today, against another team in the NFL. Not as great a difference than say, a college team where 2 or 3 guys might make the NFL vs. a whole NFL team.
Taliesihne posted:
Cawlin posted:
LOL! Why? Seriously though?
If I had to pick a team to watch Chelsea obliterate, it would be Tech, William and Mary or the Gamecocks.
But we were talking about Penn State - adding the collegiate soccer rivalries would have confused things methinks.
Ahhh OK. I didn't think Penn State's soccer program was anywhere near the level of renown to engender any sort of hatred lol... gotcha!
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
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Yukishiro1 posted:
vn_nnanji posted:
They are thinking that a new coach makes a world of difference. I suspect a new coach in Soccer means very little
Why continue to make yourself look dumb speculating about things you don't know anything about and manage to get consistently wrong?
Relegation leads to stale games because the bottom teams have little to play for, particularly in the second half of the season. When you throw in a system that actually rewards you for sucking more than everyone else it creates bad incentives that manifest themselves in the games. These are just facts.
This really isn't about futbol vs football. The MLS is set up along the lines of other U.S. sports and it leads to stale games too.
Why did you cut out my comment that I didn't really care? What are you, Fox News? 
I counter your inane ranting with three things. The 49rs, the Lions and the KC Chiefs.
Which means I win and you're stupid.
Yukishiro1 posted:
NFL Football should be run like Soccer.
Yukishiro1 posted:
This isn't about Football vs Soccer.
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