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Cawlin  4 stars
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smellymotor posted:

The other point you have to look at is safety. In professional sports that are full contact it's too dangerous to have the lower tier teams play top flight athletes.



This is an excellent point too.


Yukishiro1 posted:

The NFL rules are there to protect a cherished monopoly. Ofcourse it works well for the NFL. The rules exist to work well for the NFL.



For reasons including all of what have been posted, and the above by smelly, the NFL is perhaps the worst candidate for relegation of all American pro sports.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Taliesihne posted:

smellymotor posted:

The other point you have to look at is safety. In professional sports that are full contact it's too dangerous to have the lower tier teams play top flight athletes.



Soccer is a contact sport.

It's obviously not as violent as Football, but it is a full contact sport.



Right, but soccer is somewhat interesting in that as you go UP the ladder of skill and "professionalism", the amount of "contact" goes down.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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Cawlin posted:

Right, but soccer is somewhat interesting in that as you go UP the ladder of skill and "professionalism", the amount of "contact" goes down.


It's the exact opposite actually.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Of course relegation isn't going to happen any time soon in American sports. Especially not the NFL, which is by far the best at keeping its monopoly strong.


I would think the NBA would actually be the best candidate though, not MLB. There are thousands and thousands of potential pickup basketball teams out there. You don't need expensive facilities to train and play and the team sizes are small.
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Yukishiro1 posted:

The NFL rules are there to protect a cherished monopoly. Ofcourse it works well for the NFL. The rules exist to work well for the NFL.



And it should be changed because some soccer loving fruitcake thinks it's stale?

STFU noob. I watched 3 awesome college games yesterday and expect a very exciting NFL playoff season. The 49rs and the Lions are in the hunt....coming up from the basement. The Colts should have been a contender...and one injury knocks them flat. What does that do to your contorted theory of applying soccer rules to real football?

I can tell you that KC Chief's fans are not thinking that the NFL is stale. They are thinking that a new coach makes a world of difference. I suspect a new coach in Soccer means very little (and don't really care either way)...in the NFL it can mean everything.

In other words you don't know squat. STFU noob.

and....Soccer is a contact sport the same way all male mud wrestling is.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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I think you guys are upset your sport isn't big here in the US. Don't worry its growing in popularity....


with 6-7 graders.

 

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smellymotor  3 stars
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Oh I know there is contact in soccer but the difference is you aren't playing the man you are playing the ball.

I think the danger in the contact made in soccer ( head clash etc) wouldn't be much different in a pro v semi pro game. However A pro rugby footballer for example has a huge physical advantage over the semi pro guy to the point where it's dangerous

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Taliesihne posted:

Cawlin posted:

Right, but soccer is somewhat interesting in that as you go UP the ladder of skill and "professionalism", the amount of "contact" goes down.


It's the exact opposite actually.



Really?

I played in high school and it was half a brawl more than half the time. The coaches kept telling us that we weren't going to be able to get by with all physical play if we intended to go on and play at the college level. They made a point to talk about how the game was more about finesse, speed, and talent at the higher levels rather than brute force and physical play...

 

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NuEM  4 stars
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Wait so you guys have the same teams fighting each other year in year out?

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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Ya, really.

Things are much more physical, but they are much much better at it. They are also better about hiding it.

I think what your coach was driving at was that you wouldn't be able to overpower people physically like you were used to doing. And that has everything to do with the Talent on the field.

But make no mistakes, John Terry is not a cream puff. He can and will put your d#$% in the dirt - it's what he gets paid to do.

 

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