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reesescups  Title: //Captain America
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Yukishiro1 posted:
The current league leaders of the top English league were in the third division 8 years ago. 
Oh, it's a good thing there are time stamps on these posts!!!
Liverpool is going to smash City and I am hoping Newcastle take down ManU - but in both cases your point would still be true depending on the GD.
But anyway - your point is valid. Man City were down a few tiers just a few years ago. They were bought by a rich dude, he dumped money into the club and look at them now...
Now that's taking care of business and getting shit done!
I hope they can keep pestering ManU til Liverpool get up to full speed and go on another decade or two tear.
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Z-Elder  Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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The NFL relegation is in their scheduling. In the NFL we can see a team of Posers get a soft schedule at any time they want. That way they can make the playoffs and also get Grossly inflated personal stats for the year, along with the misplaced media attention.
Well except in Sacks, where only real men rank at the top for the year!
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Taliesihne posted:
There is much more parity in American Football then there is in European Football. Look at the winners circle in the EPL.
This is true. Does the NFL have strict financial fair play rules? The reason for the lack of parity in European football has to do with that. They have tried to introduce those rules recently but we haven't yet seen how much teeth they are going to have.
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Moe_Nox Title: In Moe We Trust
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Does the NFL have strict financial fair play rules? The reason for the lack of parity in European football has to do with that. They have tried to introduce those rules recently but we haven't yet seen how much teeth they are going to have.
Yes, they do. The big one is the salary cap.
But they also don't. The NFL actively discourages community run teams - grandfathering in the only two that exist and opposing any attempt to make more. There are a TON of community run teams in English Football.
That said, it took the NFL about a decade to get parity in the league after instituting the fair play rules.
There is talks of the MLS starting promotion and relegation fwiw.
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AzureTyger  Title: Awesome
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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I support financial fair play rules as well. But I think that's a different issue from relegation. Relegation improves the standard of play for the bottom half of the table immensely. Financial fair play would do the same to the top half but I dont' think relegation creates the imbalances at the top. Those are pretty much all down to financing.
There is a pretty much one-to-one relationship between financial disparity and the situation at the top of the table in most leagues. The Spanish league is the most lopsided financially and it's also the most lopsided in terms of who has a realistic chance of winning. Meanwhile leagues like the Bundesliga and Serie A (in recent years) are much more open because the finances are more equally distributed.
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Yossarian_42 Title: RUSH > ALL
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Registered: 2002-2-28 11:23:20
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I like relegation but I also believe the NFL system has its bonuses too. You see the exact same teams at the top of the soccer leagues year after year after year because the system helps them stay there and crushes the lesser teams.
The NFL helps the weaker teams and makes the league a lot more competitive throughout. Any team has a chance to make a legitimate run from one year to the next and it makes each season a lot more interesting and dynamic. There are always surprise teams for both the good and the bad and I think it is good for the league and the fans that everyone (except the Browns) is a potential contender at the start of the season.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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Yossarian_42 posted:
I like relegation but I also believe the NFL system has its bonuses too. You see the exact same teams at the top of the soccer leagues year after year after year because the system helps them stay there and crushes the lesser teams.
Relegation isn't what does that. It's the lack of any meaningful financial fair play rules. If Man U had an awful year and got demoted next year it wouldn't have a long-term impact on them. But if there were meaningful wage and transfer caps things would be different.
The ideal system would embrace both relegation to keep the bottom half of the table dynamic and financial fair play to keep the top half dynamic.
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