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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
Relegation in football would be really stupid due to the built in parity and the huge impact of injuries. Not to mention the fact that there is no secondary league.


The draft is also not all its cracked up to be. High draft picks cost a lot and can easily bust. I also don't see pro athletes going to teams that may not have enough money for them next year.


Relegation could work with baseball.

 

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Fist_de_Yuma  3 stars
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Fact is most Americans find your "football" boring. I'm sure you find our "football" boring. The reason is we grew up understanding the finer points of the games. A boring 1-0 game might be action packed to you. To us it is just a few guys kicking a ball around. You might find a 17-21 game boring because you just see a bunch of people hitting each other. Sure, there are some boring games in a season of American "football". I'm sure you find some of your "football" games boring. Our system works for us and your system works for you. Trying to judge which is better is for dewebs who don't really have the background or knowledge to judge anything.

 

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Szerek  2 stars
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I was reading more on relegation and I found this gem:

http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/a-relegation-fight-theyd-like-to-avoid/

It looks like some of the foreign owners of the EPL want to ditch relegation and take up franchising. I'm sure it has nothing to do with money though.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
It isn't about soccer vs football. American soccer doesn't have relegation and it suffers from the same dull game syndrome. I've said this a couple times but many of you apparently can't keep the soccer vs football out of the equation. Anything soccer does is magically bad because they do it.

Relegation isn't going to happen soon with any American pro sports because the structural monopoly is too ingrained. But it would make for more less stale games in the bottom half of the table for sure.
Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Not for football. It would be stupid in football.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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It would work fine if things were set up for it. This idea that there is anything special about the sport that makes a franchise monopoly required is just silly.

The real problem is the college/pro system. As long as you have a system like that it'd be very hard to migrate to the sort of club system relegation and promotion requires.
Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
It's kinda interesting how socialized Football is here and how privatized Soccer is in Europe.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
They have tried minor league football and failed. In order for your idea to work you have to show that a minor league would work.


Outside of that you also have to address things like injuries, pay, major markets, and the current parity system.


If you get rid of parity then you don't have to worry so much about kicking out a major franchise but even if that happens a single injury can kill a team.


The idea simply does not work for football for actual reasons that have been given.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
That was kinda the point of the original post. It's ironic that Americans love to attack Europe for being socialist, but when it comes to sports those same people go to the wall to defend the right of their sports organizations to set up a communist paradise where failure is rewarded.
Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Are the youth development programs in Europe plagued by scandal?

Don't hear much about that kind of stuff in the states.

 

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