I don't really understand this. Injuries can hurt in any sport. Do football teams not have decent backups for every position? If your team is so reliant on a single player that seems like a flaw in the team, especially in a game like football where injuries can't be rare.


I think this goes back to the college/pro system. If you had clubs like you did in europe for football you'd have plenty of backup because there'd be plenty of up and coming players. It would be a bit different because you can't very well field a bunch of 17 year olds, but it wouldn't be THAT different.

So the argument is ZOMG SOCIALIZM now?

 

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You don't hear much about it in Europe either. That doesn't mean there arn't problems though, obviously.


The whole system being privatized puts a different perspective on things, though, obviously. What would be a scandal because it happens at a college program often wouldn't really be a scandal if it happens in a club youth squad. Pedos are obviously going to be a scandal everywhere but financial stuff isn't as likely to create problems.


I think the biggest "scandals" you usually hear about are top team scouting programs poaching talent from non-top team scouting programs.

What you don't get is that injuries are hugely impactful because they happen a lot due to the nature of the sport and there is only a small difference between being a good team and being a bad team. Plus the importance of the QB.


Football is not soccer. You have made an argument that only works in a fantasy world of your own creation. There are so many ifs and buts in your argument it is comical. Almost as comical as your "ZOMG SOCIALIZM" whine.

 

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Exactly. This is all about Yuki intellectualizing and pretending it's not about his inherent dislike for football in the first place. He shows his ignorance of football repeatedly, several times while pointing to my lack if knowledge about soccer. I, however, am not trying to tell him how Soccer should be run.

I hate to agree with SoO about anything but he's summarized nicely. So does this;

 

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I'm more wondering what happens to kids that don't make it as pro-players.

Just thinking out loud - wondering which system produces less corruption and grief for young athletes.

 

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I would be all for reworking college sports but then they wouldn't be as popular.

 

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This all seems like a bunch of nonsense. Injuries being more common should result in less impact overall, not more, because things even out more over the season.


Second, I don't see why the difference between a good team and a bad team should be all that much greater in football that in any other sport. When you have to play second-string players it hurts but if your team goes from being at the top of the table to the bottom of the table because of a single injury you don't have a team, you have one guy plus a bunch of warm bodies.


Now the QB is a bit of a unique situation. But are you really telling me there arn't enough quality QBs in a country of 300 million people to provide decent backups for teams? Your QB going to get hurt is going to impact your team but are you really saying it's the difference between being making it into the playoffs and coming out near dead last?

Well, things obviously start a lot earlier for European club academies. Kids generally join by 12 or so, and by 14 or 16 at the latest players will know if they have a good shot at playing professionally or not. That may give people who don't make the cut more time to figure out what else they're going to do with their lives.


And like you said there's obviously a lot more room to be a pro soccer player in europe than there is to be a pro football player in the U.S.

lol wut?

 

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