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Yukishiro1  Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Seattle Sonics Left Because the City Refused to Build them a New Stadium |
__Bonk__ posted:
Thats Europe. This is America. Everyone is not the same.
"We're America so we have to suck"?
Very patriotic of you Bonk.
P.S. Many European countries and cities used to give big subsidies like American cities do now. Most of them don't any more because they realized it's a bad system. Why can't America do the same? Why is Europe so far ahead of America when it comes to sports management?
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Seattle Sonics Left Because the City Refused to Build them a New Stadium |
Its a small market. How about Baltimore Orioles? San Diego Padres? Sacramento Kings? Milwaukee Bucks?
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Seattle Sonics Left Because the City Refused to Build them a New Stadium |
Mastara posted:
Well I dont. Thats really all that matter. Can care less if you do or dont like it. I stated my opinion none the less.  have a good day tick
 So why enter the thread then dumbass.
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__Bonk__  Posts: 5,122
Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
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Seattle Sonics Left Because the City Refused to Build them a New Stadium |
Yukishiro1 posted:
__Bonk__ posted:
Thats Europe. This is America. Everyone is not the same.
"We're America so we have to suck"?
Very patriotic of you Bonk.
P.S. Many European countries and cities used to give big subsidies like American cities do now. Most of them don't any more because they realized it's a bad system. Why can't America do the same? Why is Europe so far ahead of America when it comes to sports management?
True. This is a great way for a city in the US to not have a sports team
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Modeeb Title: A Ghost In The Machine
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Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
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Seattle Sonics Left Because the City Refused to Build them a New Stadium |
Small means something different to you, Tyche. If San Diego, Toronto and Baltimore are small. I will agree to disagree. I still will cite Green Bay as a textbook success.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Seattle Sonics Left Because the City Refused to Build them a New Stadium |
Small market Mo. Small market. How about this. I don't try and convince you and we stay on our sides on the issue.
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Fat_wong  Posts: 293
Registered: 2007-2-6 07:59:17
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toronto is a very poor example. its not small market in the least.
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Moe_Nox Title: In Moe We Trust
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Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
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Seattle Sonics Left Because the City Refused to Build them a New Stadium |
Stadiums are used for a helluva lot more than just games. Football stadiums are used for what, 8 sundays a year for football?
They are always being rented out for concerts, conventions, rallies, etc. A tax payer owned stadium makes money for the community, if it is well managed.
There lies the problem.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Seattle Sonics Left Because the City Refused to Build them a New Stadium |
Yukishiro1 posted:
paulg_68 posted:
Fat_wong posted:
tax money shouldn;t be used to build stadiums for billionaires.
The billionaires keep their teams even after they move to another city. It's the citizens of Seattle that lost their team.
Doesn't surprise me Paul-the-worst-libertarian-ever supports taxpayers financing stadium construction for private for-profit sports teams.
Oh I went a lot further than that. I said I wasn't opposed to public ownership of teams.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Seattle Sonics Left Because the City Refused to Build them a New Stadium |
Yukishiro1 posted:
(Almost) every town has a soccer team and stadium in Europe and few of them are taxpayer financed.
Why is America so much worse at sports management than Europe?
If you try to do a major construction project in the US a thousand groups will come out of the woodwork and start making demands and trying to get payoffs. A new stadium that should cost $250 million ends up costing $750 million. Team owners and the league would be happy to pony up the $250 million. The city and the state though are major contributors to the jacking up of the ultimate cost. Owners want them to kick in to help cover that. The investment by the government also serves as a motivator to clear away a lot of unnecessary red tape.
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