But you have time to write a 2 paragraph rant??? haha sorry but that made me lol

right now it's being looked into. soon it will be a feature, working as intended or design decision. LOL. Remember folks, the motto is: It's always the customers' fault!

I knew a term like "evidence" would be hard for some on these boards to swallow. Evidence, you know, everything that is used to determine or demonstrate the truth of an assertion? You can even look the term up online now if you don't know what the word means..


Here's the funny thing for all those who don't understand what the word 'evidence' means...the customer does not need to prove anything to Mythic, all the customer has to do is /cancel their subscription-and they have by the thousands-because they are not happy with the game. How's that for evidence?


The 'evidence' here is what the customers 1. experience for themselves 2. don't like it 3. get blamed for it by Mythic (in effect through denial) 4. they quit the game over it.


My evidence that trumps Mythic fanboi opinion we read on these boards (in this case) is subscription numbers. You might lie, I might lie, the numbers do not lie.


Court adjourned-oops, time for that dictionary again!

Sorry, running a DOL emulation on your home PC and comparing the NF lag against what you see in game with 200+ poeple in a single keep / tower is pretty retarded. Mythic's infrastructure is designed from the ground up to support threaded client/server requests in real time at near to the same pace as an FPS. It's always going to be slower (and by that I'm refreeing to miliseconds) than an 8/16/32 player FPS map, as you are often dealing with silo'd instances of RVR (NF, Lab, Agramon etc.. running in their own virtual "bubble" with x20 the amounts of players.


If Mythic's infrastructure is so poorly optimised and creaking at the seams, how is it that 2 people can have such diametrically opposed experiences, depending on where they are. I'm 5000 miles away on an average internet connection, playing on 2 year old PC, primetime in a zerg of 200+ people and I get pretty much no lag at all, compared to someone who might be 10 miles down the road from Fairfax, who's unable to play because their game grinds to a halt in large fights.


Edit Oh and Sunsand. The game is 9 years old. Don't kid yourself that thousands of poeple quite because they got unhappy with the game. Plenty have, but over the last 9 years its NOT because of the lag. They've gone and started a family, left for collage, got married and quit, got bored, couldn't afford to play, moved to WAR etc.. or just plain rage quit. If you leave the game cause Mythic runied your experience, i'm sorry but your gonna have a life filled with dissapointments.

 

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I am not kidding myself when it comes to the 'age of the game' argument. Is DAOC the best RvR MMO on the market or not? If it is, and many argue that it is, then why do people continue to use at as some 'silver bullet' argument that magically erases all the other much more significant reasons players quit the game?


Look at the argument from another perspective, had Mythic addressed many of the other reasons that players have quit the game, and continue to quit the game, how many players would still be playing regardless of the age of the game? Getting older, having kids, having less time to play, blah, blah, blah, excuses. Is age of the game a real reasons for some to stop playing? Yes, for some. But, check the ages, kids, age of the game of other MMOs and players playing those MMOs and you'll quickly learn that age, kids, family are excuses, not reasons that most people stop playing DAOC. I will acknowledge that SOME stop playing because the game is old..


When people switch from DAOC to WoW or anyother MMO, 'age of the game' excuses get @#$%canned and thrown out the window. Bottom line? DAOC is making piss poor BUSINESS decisions. If they could pry their lips off the rear ends of the elitest population in NF for 3 seconds they could significantly positively impact the subscription base of the game. Will they? Doubt it..


The alternative is the death and stagnation option, maintain the status quo. Keep lips superglued to elitest rear ends and watch the game die. Maintain the status quo, watch the game die. Live in denial that there are not real issues with the game while you ask the playerbase for more "feedback" for issues you see with your own eyes every night you play, and watch the game die.


I understand all the people living in their parents basement making excuses for Mythic's mistakes, they will get kicked in the teeth by the business world when their parents kick them out of the house. What I don't understand is EA and Mythics tolerance for piss poor business decision making. Look at WoW's subscription numbers on a timeline compared to DAOC's sub numbers on a timeline. Wow has buried and will BURY daoc. Why? Business decisions....Again..case closed

If that reads like a rant to you, then you must live in a monastery.

 

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Evidence? Or just another baseless, factless moan?


Huzzahs to you though...maybe for some reason the cosmos has lined up in your favour and decided to grant you the ability to play DAoC with hardly any lag.

Other people are having problems with it and it seems like screwy thinking to me for someone to say that because they have not experienced what many others are experiencing that all the others must be wrong.

That being said...

There are only a few times that I experience lag that will make me roll my eyes and /q. I don't seem to have it as bad as some other folk; but I have seen the way that it affects other players around me. I know how bad it can get during the times in which it affects me. I've experienced the other player's avatars jumping around from place to place, the waiting 2 or so seconds between hitting a hotkey and the style/spell casting animation going off, and I've definitely seen the hauntings of NF and BGs where the ghosts of other realms present are running rampant all while having three green dots telling me that everything is A-OK. On the chance that the folks at Mythic CAN do something about it, I'd like it cleaned up so that people can play the game a bit more fluidly and that those of us who have it a bit better off will be able to chase after enemy realm players confidently; knowing that they aren't a figment of the server's imagination (so to speak.)

To say that you don't experience any of the things that the others are talking about at all is curious and very difficult for me to believe, Auberne.

It doesn't mean that it isn't true for you, it just means that I have a hard time accepting it experiencing what my guild, the folks in my alliance, the local community and me myself have played through. Just because the game functions relatively well for me doesn't meant that I don't want the best performance I can get for my sub fee, or for the money that my friends contribute either.

If a person just thinks of themselves all the time without caring about what those around want/need/feel like doing, then I'm sorry but it seems to me that they will live a lonely life filled with disappointment.

3000+ people log in daily, but we have a thread with maybe 20 of the same people posting in it. Hmm, not that many then.

 

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20 > 2 as far as I know

 

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I'm sure that not everyone that logs into the game frequents the VN boards or even bothers to post on them at all.