So you're reasoning as to why a Thane needs better ranged dps is because a Sorc hits you hard when you're debuffed 50%(probably) by his Cabby partner?





Asking for much?

maybe you need a template and a lesson on ras?

i would log if i nuked a caster for less that 400 a nuke on my rr12 smiter.

 

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Yeah.

Wait what?

 

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Yes I mentioned I was debuffed, but that damage differential from a high utility toon, sorc, to a non-utility toon, thane, is obscene. Sorcs have an insane amount of toys and to be able to assit a debuff train with that type of result is impressive. I think thanes without all that utility should have a chance at similar numbers somehow. Right now its is truely impossible.


List caster's defensive abilitys are under-rated. Things like Stun, Root, casted ranged snare, mez and nearsight are truely devistating. Thane gets none of these. Playing a class without any of those, the focus needs to be on pure DPS. Thane is not exactly a "dps" class as it is.


So either more ranged dps or some cc/defensive toys are warranted. They just dont have the utility or the dps right now, something class defining is missing.


Andynin,

he had pretty nice resists and I didnt have time to get off a 3second cast debuff. 239 (-177) is not good but its all that a 187delve dd without acuity buff can attain on a high resist target. It looks like he had 25+5+24=52% energy resist, high for alb unless they had a buffbot spec cleric. Or bot in group for resists before run.


rr8|5 with 10spell damage, 10pierce, MoM5, Acuity5, WP4 at the moment for spell stuffs.

 

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So you really can't see the problem that might arise with a chain wearing, shield carrying melee class doing the kind of ranged damage a Sorc does when a Cabby debuffs for them?

smites?

 

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My warrior is not strong because he wears chain and has a shield. He is strong because he has 20%baseline Master of Magery, and stoicism+det. Stack some AoM and 3,400 hits and it's an un-CC able damage sponge.

Shield is a crutch after the hybrid nerf, arrow changes, block% nerf, and DW penetration. It's all but useless and thanes don't really have the points to spend in it,
Chain is a weak form of a heretic buff,

The game didn't seem to break when heretic's were introduced. 900 is not an uncommon hit from a high rank tic, oh and they got heals too! Yay.

 

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So in other words you really can't see a potential problem with a melee class with good defense hitting harder with ranged spells than pretty much every other caster in the game? Well if you get your way I'll be back on live in a heartbeat and I know what class I'll play.

As for Tics, you really can't see the difference between insta's and spammable versus focus spells????

When did Warriors get MoM???? And why?

Tic's focus ramps up very fast. Thane cannot currently ramp up on anything, that's my point.

Either with a debuff train, or a large crit, or if mythic puts in some ramp-up, I would like to see thanes able to do the dps of a non-primary spec nuke caster considering that's what a thane is.

I don't know where I got MoM above, must have been late. I ment AoM avoidance of magic for what makes my warrior hearty. /boggle.

 

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So basically, you want to deal as much as a sorc on debuffed targets with lucky crits ?

I guess even sorcs would want to do that on a regular basis.