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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
GutterSludge posted:

Hang around the board long enough, and you will see for yourself.


Like I said, you are almost caught up.


It isn't an insult, its just the truth.



1. I've been on VN longer than you.

2. I've known the people and the various posters here longer than you.

3. I can read between the lines better than you.


You need to catch up, son.


Opinion does not make it truth. No matter how you shake, stretch, swirl, or twirl it, your opinion and your e-peen doesn't make it bigger or more truthful.


It just makes it your perception.


Don't talk down to me. I'll embarrass you. I'm not nice like Auenwing.

 

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Fedup23  2 stars
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GutterSludge  4 stars
Posts: 1,034
Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Ardenwolfe posted:

GutterSludge posted:

Hang around the board long enough, and you will see for yourself.

Like I said, you are almost caught up.

It isn't an insult, its just the truth.



1. I've been on VN longer than you.
2. I've known the people and the various posters here longer than you.
3. I can read between the lines better than you.

You need to catch up, son.

Opinion does not make it truth. No matter how you shake, stretch, swirl, or twirl it, your opinion and your e-peen doesn't make it bigger or more truthful.

It just makes it your perception.

Don't talk down to me. I'll embarrass you. I'm not nice like Auenwing.



ROFL!!!

1. You "think" you've been on the VN longer than me..
2. You know nothing.
3. You obviously can't read at all.

Opinion does not make it truth. No matter how you shake, stretch, swirl, or twirl it, your opinion and your e-peen doesn't make it bigger or more truthful.


Which is your opinion, and as you state, means nothing.


I absolutely LOVE the "son" part...another feeble attempt by a nobody at "e-thugery"...

BLAHAAAAA thank you sooooo much for posting that crap, you made my night!!!


Edit: the ONLY thing you are "better" at than anyone on this board, appears to be blowing sugar up Korrigan's arse...good job! You win at that!!

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
Posts: 499
Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
A wiser man than you once said on these very boards, "When a poster needs to display laughter and/or LOLs as a response, it means his position in a debate is so weak, he has no other options," or words to that effect.


Probably one of the most honest and valid statements ever made here.


Since you've been around, and know how to read between the lines, you'll know who said this.


But, let me spell it out for you.


I offered you a chance to validate your position. Instead, you chose to repeat your diatribe.


Again, I offered you a chance to clarify in a more professional manner. I even offered an example on how to do it. And what did you do? You repeated yourself and decided to talk down to me.


And now, here we are with the lols and personal insults.


You have no position. In fact, you don't even have a clue. You're here to get into a pissing contest with Korrigan.


Fact.


Now, you can call me all the colorful names you like, but the truth is--and this is the truth--you've got nothing to back up your opposing opinion.


You can try to laugh it off. No doubt. But this display is nothing more than you thrashing about like a child.


So, please, back up your opinion or kindly be quiet.


Your choice.

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Pugs will dominate Cata.

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Ardenwolfe posted:

A wiser man than you once said on these very boards, "When a poster needs to display laughter and/or LOLs as a response, it means his position in a debate is so weak, he has no other options," or words to that effect.



Or, on rare occasions, the post was so ridiculous that it actually made the person laugh, out loud, IRL..which is the case here..


Ardenwolfe posted:

But, let me spell it out for you.

I offered you a chance to validate your position. Instead, you chose to repeat your diatribe.

Again, I offered you a chance to clarify in a more professional manner. I even offered an example on how to do it. And what did you do? You repeated yourself and decided to talk down to me.

And now, here we are with the lols and personal insults.



Your "son" comment was hilarious, and I have yet to personally insult you. If you consider thrashing your opinion a "personal insult", then you need thicker skin, son.


Ardenwolfe posted:

You have no position. In fact, you don't even have a clue. You're here to get into a pissing contest with Korrigan.

Fact.



No. Korrigan and I have been doing this for about a year...if you had been here, as you claim, you would know this..
Nice job outing yourself as a non participant.


Ardenwolfe posted:

Now, you can call me all the colorful names you like,



I have yet to call you any name. I don't have to stoop so low..


Ardenwolfe posted:

You can try to laugh it off. No doubt. But this display is nothing more than you thrashing about like a child.

So, please, back up your opinion or kindly be quiet.

Your choice.



Believe me, it is insanely easy to laugh you off. There is no "try" to it. You have been officially "laughed off"..Choke on it


Pugs will dominate in Cata.
WOW is not hard. It wasn't hard in Vanilla, BC, Wrath, nor will it be in Cata.

More people than ever will rip up the new content, since we are starting an expansion with the RDF operational.

Elitists will continue to cry, and remember the good ole days of drudging up to the dungeon in the snow, with bare feet, uphill, both ways...and scream that the game has been dumbed down for the casuals in the same breath that they say pugs will fail because of the need for CC.

 

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JaredKorry  2 stars
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GutterSludge posted:

Pugs will dominate Cata.



What makes you say that? Were you in the beta? From what bits of hearsay I've read, it seems that the dungeons will be harder, more like they were in BC, requiring CC and such.


I do have to disagree with the "Wow is not hard comment". Instances were indeed harder, imo, in BC, with people needing to CC (I even remember, as a hunter, needing to chain trap mobs and groups looking for a specific type of CC like sap or sheep) and follow a kill order. As opposed to Wrath where CC is practically non existent, hardly anyone even bothers marking targets, and AOE rules the day.
Ardenwolfe  2 stars
Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
Posts: 499
Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
You're not very good at this. If you want to contradict a point, you need to make sure you're not talking out your rear.


GutterSludge posted:

Edit: the ONLY thing you are "better" at than anyone on this board, appears to be blowing sugar up Korrigan's arse...good job! You win at that!!



This is an insult. A personal, and implied, insult. An incorrect one, but that's another topic for another thread.


If you cherry-pick a point, all the way laughing at your own self-proclaimed wittiness, you better be sure you come correct.


And you don't.


At all.


So, now we've switched from a pissing contest with Korrigan to a pissing contest with me. While I'm flattered, that's not the point of the thread either.


Pick-up groups will dominate Cataclysm.


And?


This doesn't mean all PuGs lack skill. It just means you cannot connect the dots. The topic is 'skilled' and 'unskilled' players.


Do you need me to hold your hand any further than this?

 

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--Syrus--  3 stars
Posts: 536
Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
Just a little story to add to the thread here, I have not been following these recent arguments, but earlier we mentioned what we expect out of our PuG's and so on and it was suggested rather then treat bad players poorly or kick them from our groups to just give them tips here and there to help make them better players.

It was also pointed out to us that some players just don't care to be better players at all.

I mentioned as well that even the smallest "tip" given to most players results in belligerent rudeness. Here is a prime example.

I was tanking Wailing Caverns with my new pally. I had a rogue in the group who obviously did not understand the concept of a tank in a group, after each pull he would just run forward into the next group and start attacking.

For the most part I could keep up with him, so I just threw my avengers shield in there as he was running up each time and made sure to take aggro from him. At this point I had decided not to bother saying anything, what he was doing was making the healers job a little harder, but I didn't think it would result in a wipe so I left it alone.

At one point the rogue ran off in the opposite direction not paying attention to where the group was headed and started attacking his own mob. Well because the rest of the group followed me including the healer he died. At this point I felt bad for the guy so I decided to take the advice given to me here and give this guy a friendly tip.

I said "Hey man, it would make it easier on you if you just let me tank the mobs."

He responded "Meaning?"
At this point I gave him the benefit of the doubt and actually thought he didn't know what I meant by me tanking.

"Let me take all the damage, that's my job, just attack the mobs that I'm attacking and you won't take any damage."

"ou don't do shit. Shut up. Just go."

See what I mean? These are the types we are talking about. Why group with people if you don't care to be part of a team at all? His play style didn't change at all, I had to make sure and keep up with him and continue to pull mobs off of him that he would go after on his own.

At the point in Wailing Caverns where you have to jump that small small little gap.. he fell down took him a good 5 minutes to find his way back to the group.

I'm trying to take the advice of some of the people on this forum and not boot these players lest I be labeled "elistest" but I really don't think these players will learn either way.

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
Posts: 499
Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
Unfortunately, as I said in an example and as demonstrated with liberal excess, some people just have to be right all the time no matter how flawed their thinking or argument stands.


As some preachers will have you believe, "Not everyone can be saved."


While I commend you for your attempt, just bear in mind not everyone will be as open-minded. It takes a mature person to see someone's opposing view and consider a change in judgement or action.


But those people must be willing to take the first step.


Offer the hand, but if they refuse, you can't say you didn't offer.


That's all anyone can ask.

 

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