I call 'em like I see 'em. :-)

 

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It's a game - it should be fun. If the game is not fun to a majority of players, then it's not a smart business decision by Blizzard. Appeasing a small minority and stroking their ego by allowing them to excel in a "challenging" game at the cost of everyone else is not worth alienating the vast majority of the player base (the "scrubs" as you would call them.)

I've never understood why the "elite" get upset over things like welfare epics or things being "dumbed down" so that more people could participate. I can understand wanting a challenge, but you can find that for yourself - go undergeared, go a man down, or go with a less than optimal group. It seems like it's not really the "challenge" that they're looking for, it's being able to be superior to the rest. What does it really matter if baddie #6743 is wearing the same uber leet shoulders you are? It has no effect on your game.

Forum Kindergarten heroes do that, yeah. Instead of shutting the hell up, they make themself look like asshats by attacking unknown people's "real" life.
Got used to it, but it never gets old.

I think that's why I like this forum. With the average ambient IQ, any normal person looks like Einstein here.

 

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Don't confuse forum whiners with any kind of majority. That's your big mistake.
Some people here seem to think that because them and their close friends are unhappy with the new heroics, everybody is. That's the same kind of flawed logic than the guy saying "dang, all my friends, my family, my dog, my canary bird voted for McCain, how comes Obama has been elected? We were the majority!".



I never gave a crap about what some scrub near me posing on the mailbox was wearing, and I still don't care. But when they dumb down content I enjoy because of the whiners not able to do it properly, then YES, it affects my game.
Again, can't take heroics? Do normals.

 

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It seems like it's not really the "challenge" that they're looking for, it's being able to be superior to the rest


You hit the nail on the head. They could use any of the suggestions you posted if they really wanted a challenge. They don't. They just want to look down their noses at people to make themselves feel better.

Korrigan, get over yourself. This gate was built and is designed to appeal to the masses. Yes the very masses you seem to despise and take delight in mocking trying to run out of the game. Enjoy your uber leet "challenges" while they last. I have no doubt Blizz will adjust the heroics so they can be run by the masses. I have no doubt that we will hear you crying like a baby when they do. You remind me of Athene. So arrogant and full of yourself.

Oh yeah, the good old flawed casual argument "if you want a challenge, do the dungeons naked". It's as old as MMORPGs I think, or even older. It's of course totally silly, but they insist on using it.

The answer is simple and is always the same. If you can't take the challenge of heroics, stick to normal dungeons. That's what they are here for.

Dang, what the hell were you guys doing in vanilla WoW, when dungeons like Stratholme or Scholomance where as hard if not harder than most heroics of TBC and Cataclysm? Blizzard added normal modes specially for people like you. Use it, abuse it.

 

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Korrigan, get over yourself. This gate was built and is designed to appeal to the masses. Yes the very masses you seem to despise and take delight in mocking trying to run out of the game. Enjoy your uber leet "challenges" while they last. I have no doubt Blizz will adjust the heroics so they can be run by the masses. I have no doubt that we will hear you crying like a baby when they do. You remind me of Athene. So arrogant and full of yourself.

Always funny when Korrigan attempts to cut on someone, and fails to realize that his statement applies to him exponentially more than it applies to his intended target.

 

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The only arrogant I see here are the whiners who seem to think they are part of some kind of majority unhappy with the new difficulty of the game. As I said, don't confuse "forum whiner" and "majority".

And even worse when it's VN Boards. This place has been a microcosm of scrubs for several years now. There are like 3 or 4 people left who know what they are talking about, all the others stopped posting when the forum moderation stopped and every single thread got infested by the kindergarten hero club.

 

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As I said, don't confuse "forum whiner" and "majority".

Oh I'm not. I'm not even taking what is posted on this board into consideration when discussing the difficulty of heroics in Cata. I'm basing my opinion on the PUGs I run with, the people I talk to in game, and how frequently PUGs give up and fall apart trying to do heroics.

The vast majority of people I've encountered, IN GAME and IN THOSE HEROICS, were not and are not having fun. They are very discouraged and frustrated with how making 1 simple mistake, like not moving at exactly the right second or to exactly the right place and so on, means insta death. There is no chance to correct or compensate for these small, simple mistakes. Unless the ENTIRE group does everything almost perfectly, it means a wipe. I've struggled through most of the heroics as a pally healer. There may be 1 or 2 I haven't finished. But I've moved on to farming rep in normal instances and leveling alts because of all the insta death mechanics in the heroics. It's not fun. So keep right on mocking those who disagree with you. It IS fun to watch you make an ass on yourself.