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Author Topic: Cataclysm predicted to be the "WoW-killer" we've all been expecting [Locked]
Rabbisaur
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I doubt Cataclysm will be a "WOW-killer" but I do think this expansion will be viewed as the beginning of the end.


I have played since the end of Vanilla. I was just finished my leveling when Burning Crusade was launched, and I had an absolute blast throughout BC and was pretty hardcore about it. Raided regularly as a Combat swords Rogue and killed every boss in the game. We never saw a single Warglaive drop (AAAAHhHHH) but I had me a lovely Dragonspine Trophy among other mad leet purplez that made me happy (in game). I took a nice 6-month hiatus at the end of BC when we had the BT on farm and then came roaring back for WOTLK. Destroyed Naxx in week 2 of the WOTLK launch, then quickly burned out and took another 6 months off the game. Came back for another 6 month strench toward the end of Ulduar and stayed throughout the TOC launch, got my "tribute to mad skill" and then quit again for an entire year. Completely skipped Icecrown.


Anywho, after over a year off I bought Cataclysm and leveled up my Prot/Arms Warrior from 80 to 85. Tanked every regular dungeon along the way and 2 of the heroics, started grinding a few honor pieces, and did all that in just a week of 2-3 hours of play per day. There is not nearly as much content in Cataclysm as the last 2 expansions.


The questing was kind of fun but it's entirely linear, on rails, no choice involved. You can't quest above your level either. Kind of kills replay value. Goblin starting area blows - the quests are written for like 5-year old children. Heroics aren't that hard but they are annoying. I tanked and have played the game forever so I led my PUGs through without many problems but the dungeons take too long and have way too many one-shot mechanics.


The game is certainly not what it was in Burning Crusade, what I now see as the "Golden Age" of WOW. Anyway, my sub expires in a few weeks but I'm not just not interested in logging on. Playing "Dead Space" on my PS3 (BEAUTIFUL game), watching some good movies, and reading books in my leisure time now.
Rabbisaur
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Dear Korrigan,

D-bags like you are one of the main reason why I left WOW. Back in the day when I was "HARDCORE" I have no doubt I would have Shadowstep pwned you like a fool but eventually I came to realize that no one really cares how leet you are in WOW, not even your fellow hardcores within the game. If and when you get sick of WOW your guildies will easily replace you and forget about you and then you will still be nothing but a discussion board troll IRL. I am sure that you are very purpley leetzor in WOW right now and I truly do hope that it makes you happy even if you are a terrible person. But I really don't care. Bai.
Spookysheep  4 stars
Title: Lieker of Cheese
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Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
Rabbisaur posted:

Dear Korrigan,
D-bags like you are one of the main reason why I left WOW. Back in the day when I was "HARDCORE" I have no doubt I would have Shadowstep pwned you like a fool but eventually I came to realize that no one really cares how leet you are in WOW, not even your fellow hardcores within the game. If and when you get sick of WOW your guildies will easily replace you and forget about you and then you will still be nothing but a discussion board troll IRL. I am sure that you are very purpley leetzor in WOW right now and I truly do hope that it makes you happy even if you are a terrible person. But I really don't care. Bai.



Shhhhh! Dude, his entire self worth is wrapped up in his WoW achievements (that he admits he only gets because he has a guild that carries him).

Comments like yours are going to further erode his self esteem and he might just off himself one day, then think how awful you would feel. o.0

 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
Rabbisaur posted:

Dear Korrigan,
D-bags like you are one of the main reason why I left WOW. <personal attacks, mixing real life with a game, and more silly crap>

If I in any way helped to get rid of people like you in the game, dear rabbisaur "1 post wonder troll account", then I did a good deed. Each scrub leaving the game is one less whiner trying to dumb it down even more than it is.
Good riddance!

 

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huldu  1 star
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Registered: 2002-6-20 12:46:48
Its not fun to zerg a zone? Well its not fun to do the same crap day in and day out either. Dont matter how you turn this around someone will always complain. Clearly they made it too "hard" for the majority of players in WoW. Why Blizz even bothers i have no idea. Its not like the players got anywhere else to go. WoW is the king and that will never change.

 

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nookie989
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Registered: 2002-9-6 07:15:39
The_Korrigan posted:

Rabbisaur posted:

Dear Korrigan,
D-bags like you are one of the main reason why I left WOW. <personal attacks, mixing real life with a game, and more silly crap>

If I in any way helped to get rid of people like you in the game, dear rabbisaur "1 post wonder troll account", then I did a good deed. Each scrub leaving the game is one less whiner trying to dumb it down even more than it is.
Good riddance!



If anyone is looking for an example of why WoW's community is such rubbish, look no further than The_Korrigan.

 

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Rabbisaur
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huldu posted:

Its not fun to zerg a zone? Well its not fun to do the same crap day in and day out either. Dont matter how you turn this around someone will always complain. Clearly they made it too "hard" for the majority of players in WoW. Why Blizz even bothers i have no idea. Its not like the players got anywhere else to go. WoW is the king and that will never change.



No it's not fun to zerg a dungeon. In WOTLK heroics were undertuned to begin with, Blizz nerfed them anyway, but more importantly they just had massive gear stat inflation over the course of the expansion for some reason. In BC there wasn't nearly as big of a stat difference on T6 BT gear vs. T4 from Kara/Gruul/Mags for instance.


Cata dungeons in general are better than WOTLK, it's just that Blizz went too far in the other direction and made them a bit too long AND insta-gib in a 5-man is just not fun for most players. I didn't have to worry about it as I tanked them, but I would see good DPS howl in frustration after dieing to one small mistake made in the entire dungeon. Annoying. That mechanic was actually rare in Burning Crusade heroics, even on my squishy Rogue back then the only mobs that could one-shot me before I could vanish were those big axe-wielding guys that had a cleave in Hellfire Ramparts (a heroic that could be done in 30 minutes even in T4 gear BTW).


Anyway, dungeon difficulty is probably going to drive away a lot of the masses from WOW which of course does not make a lot of sense from a business perspective. It won't be a problem for super awesome WOW pros like yourself and your butt-buddy Korrigan obviously. I know you are too good to stand in the fire and know how to smash your move rotation like a champ. Mad skillz bro!


The main problem with the expansion is that there is absolutely nothing new in terms of game mechanics and things to do at level cap. The vets of WOW appear to be getting bored of imbalanced PVP gear treadmill and repetative raid gear treadmill. The game has little else to offer despite the fact that it's obviously a heck of a lot of fun for a while.
The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
nookie989 posted:

If anyone is looking for an example of why WoW's community is such rubbish, look no further than The_Korrigan.

If anyone is wondering why MMORPGs get dumbed down more and more since the old days of UO (which you have in your signature), look no further than this forum and the numerous scrubs whining as soon as Blizzard dares to add something a bit more challenging to the game. That's the bane of the community: self entitled "casuals" who think they should get everything in easy mode for whatever bad reasons they always give. What's even more pathetic is that if you give them the choice between easy (normal) and hard (heroic) modes, they will whine in order to have the hard (heroic) mode dumbed down.

 

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siujoey  2 stars
Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
nookie989 posted:

The_Korrigan posted:

Rabbisaur posted:

Dear Korrigan,
D-bags like you are one of the main reason why I left WOW. <personal attacks, mixing real life with a game, and more silly crap>

If I in any way helped to get rid of people like you in the game, dear rabbisaur "1 post wonder troll account", then I did a good deed. Each scrub leaving the game is one less whiner trying to dumb it down even more than it is.
Good riddance!



If anyone is looking for an example of why WoW's community is such rubbish, look no further than The_Korrigan.



Lol. I just had a serious thought: What is going to happen to Korrigan when WoW really DOES die? His self-worth seems to be almost completely dependent upon his WoW superiority.

I tend to think that it will be a Matrix-esque disaster. I believe that when they pull the plug on the very last WoW server, Korrigan's major organs will immediately cease functioning.


Edit: (Serious response portion) WoW is a game, but primarily it is a BUSINESS. The experience must be tailored to appeal to as many people as possible. The dungeons must be tuned to the average player. Perhaps that is not the best thing for the game (depending on how "hardcore" you are), but that's how it will be done. They want to make the experience enjoyable for as many people as possible. There is no way they will tune heroics to only be accessible/fun/feasible for the "hardcore" players. It would be idiotic. What Blizzard is aiming for is to make heroics challenging.... for the AVERAGE player in appropriate gear. If you think anything different, you are kidding yourself.

 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
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Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
Always funny when people assume they know your "real" life based on a video game forum, and try to attack it. That's when you know they really have nothing more to say. This show the poor quality of trolls we have around here.

 

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