Fixt.


The type of player you are is the only true leech.

 

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I'd argue that tanking is not harder. It does require better gear though. I can only speak from a warrior perspective but the actual gameplay as a tank is not hard. It requires more mental attention. After 8 hours at the dental clinic, I feel too mentally "spent" to have any desire to do that in a game.

I don't expect it to change. I'm not looking for change. I'm just venting my frustration on vnboards. People have been venting here for years. When I want a game that offers challenge yet doesn't radically change player's characters every month with odd patches... I just log onto EvE or shoot people in Black Ops. WoW is my "thoughtless" game.

 

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I feel the DPS pain. This is why I have a tank and healer now.

Still though this goes back to the holy trinity of MMO design

Tank-healer-dps

MMO's need to move away from this design. Its old and dated and no longer fits the desires of the MMO playerbase.

Now you add the difficulty factor in WoW. Now you have to fire off a few more neurons. The problem is the stress factor on tanks and healers. More to the point the whining that goes on when something doesn't go right. Who plays a game to be put under that stress?

 

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Oh noes!!! I think he's insulting me.

 

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"In guild:

DPS logs on. DPS asks - "Anyone want to run a heroic?" crickets... except maybe some other DPS... POSSIBLY a tank or healer.

Tank logs on. DPS asks - "OMG! TANK THIS HEROIC FOR ME!!!!!!1234" Tank logs off, rolls an alt, and hides.

Healer logs on. DPS asks - "OMG! HEAL THIS HEROIC FOR ME!!!!!!1234" Healer logs off, rolls an alt, sends a realid msg to the tank, the two level together and hide from the guild.


In whisper:

Mage/Warlock/Rogue/Hunter logs on and goes about their day.

DK/Warrior logs on, someone they've never met whispers "Are you a tank?"

Paladin/Druid logs on, someone they've never met whispers "Are you a tank or healer?"

Priest/Shaman logs on, someone they've never met whispers "Are you a healer?"


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I have to say with all honesty I have never encountered this.


First of all, when my guild asks me to tank or heal an instance I am proud and happy to drop what I am doing to do that. After all that is why I am playing a tank or healer class. How can you be bothered to be asked to preform your role?


If you hate tanking or healing that much, please don't play the class just for the quick queues, you're not doing you or anyone else any favors.


As far as the whispers, I have never recieved one such whisper to randomly ask me to tank or heal anything.

 

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It isnt just WoW. EQ, DAOC, and other games people have preferred to play classes that can "Pew Pew Pew" over any other type. The advent of DPS meters in WoW only further feeds that need of topping the DPS charts.

Also, you have to think that there are 4 Tanks, 4 Healers, and 10 DPS. Add that with the mentality of all MMOs of players wanting to do damage over playing any other role, and that ratio above of 1 tank 2 heals per 75 dps isnt a far fetched idea.

You tell Blizzard to make Healing or Tanking more fun, but you yourself admit to never wanting to play that role in the first place. So no matter how "fun" they make it, you would never play it. I love to tank so "fun" is subjective. But I will admit, Blizzard has FUBAR'ed healing for the moment and no, it isnt as fun to play as it used to be. That I will agree with.

 

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Tanking isn't harder then DPS?


There are a few simple facts that disprove this.


This simple fact that you have to compensate for other player mistakes. (Pulling aggro), and not just worry about your own dps meter means its more difficult.


Second, boss fights. You have to know where to place the boss, turn the boss, move the boss, in some cases even while picking up adds and such. Its harder then staying out of the fire and spamming firebolts.


I could go on.


If you have never tanked and you truly feel that DPS and Tanking require the same amount of effort, then (and I am not trying to insult you here) it just shows how little you are paying attention to actual group mechanics during the encounter.

 

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Call it what you want. It is not the dps venting, it is not the I will not tank or heal attitude, it is both combined and then expecting the game to change for you. You are the problem you are venting about and obviously too self centered to see it or admit it.

 

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I will definitely agree that Tanking requires far far more awareness than DPS. Tanks are the "group leaders". They control the pace, they have to know what each class can do in a group, mark appropriately and of course all the things mentioned about boss fights.

 

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You describe the stressful part of tanking perfectly.

As I see it, there are two parts to tanking:

1) The actual tanking --> This part requires no more skill than DPS and is the part to which I was referring. There are set rotation or priorities. Do this for single target threat and this for AE threat and this for damage mitigation. If someone feels this is harder than a DPS rotation or priority system then they really aren't playing their dps class to its full potential. They've probably never topped raid meters. People can whine about dps meters all they want. It is what keeps the bosses from enraging. They need to die and die fast.

2) The fixing of others' mistakes --> This is why I personally hate tanking. It takes a lot of mental awareness by the tank this is always put onto his shoulders. Blizzard tried to take some of this off the tanks shoulders but it never happens. Do hunters regularly in 5-man misdirect back onto the tank?, do rogues go out of their way to tricks mobs back on the tank?, how many mages ignore the caster in the back and refuse to silence the mob toward the tank? etc. It is WoW mentality that it is the tank's job. It is stressful. Fixing these mistakes is not fun [for me].

 

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