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steveC91  Posts: 81
Registered: 2003-3-28 06:34:58
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My last two hours in WoW (endgame review?) |
The problem with making things more fun in Blizzards eyes is making it more difficult
I Heal and Tank and don’t consider making the fights harder more fun just more frustrating.
Specially when you only have a few hours play time.
Shorter instances would be nice keeping the difficulty just reducing the time needed to complete.
\But no doubt in 6 months time everything will be easy again.
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_Taebo_ Posts: 184
Registered: 2001-2-28 11:37:14
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1/1/00 12:00am
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My last two hours in WoW (endgame review?) |
That sound exactly like my last DAY in WoW.
Cancelled.
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Sociop  Posts: 264
Registered: 2009-12-8 15:10:16
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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45 min ques for a 2 hour run is bad enough but because of their short ques many Tanks and Heals will leave at the first sign of trouble, thus a large percentage of those 45 min ques are wasted on fail and bails.
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Liquid741  Title: VN Sensei
Posts: 920
Registered: 2006-12-16 13:56:50
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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My last two hours in WoW (endgame review?) |
SunnyDelight posted:
Are you complaining?
Because really you only have yourself to blame. Blizzard has no control of how many tanks or healers join the queue, and if you're just going to dps and complain about the queues you might as well just get us to it.
This is why the four classes that I've leveled to 80 (and my main 85) are all classes that can tank. makes it much more enjoyable.
whatever...i guess i should quit the class i have fun with to play something i dont want too...ie, Rogue.
unless they bump up evasion and dodge and then i can start evasion tanking.
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-Kurasis- Title: Druid Power
Posts: 24
Registered: 2004-3-4 09:35:54
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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My last two hours in WoW (endgame review?) |
Errtuu posted:
SunnyDelight posted:
Are you complaining?
Because really you only have yourself to blame. Blizzard has no control of how many tanks or healers join the queue, and if you're just going to dps and complain about the queues you might as well just get us to it.
This is why the four classes that I've leveled to 80 (and my main 85) are all classes that can tank. makes it much more enjoyable.
Blizzard is to blame. This is a valid complaint. Yeah, I'm taking troll-bait. For those who don't have fun healing or tanking, this is a real problem. Here's just a few ideas off the top of my head. Sure these aren't quick and easy changes, but there's no doubt Blizzard has the capacity to implement these types of measures.
Make healing/tanking more fun it is fun
Incentivize healers and tanks to pug they do, we get instant queues
6 person (4 dps) group size paradigm as if bosses werent easy enough already.
Allow DPS to do something more constructive while queued on their toon (e.g. queue for PVP/dungeon at same time--during BG or dungeon your queue position moves and when at the top holds a top spot when you exit your current dungeon or BG--OR allow players to be on one toon and queue for another toon--then when it pops it logs in that toon into the dungeon)go farm herbs/ore or do achaelogy while you queue, problem solved
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Trigeminal Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
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1/1/00 12:00am
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My last two hours in WoW (endgame review?) |
I have a tank. I don't play him because I find it boring. DPS is enjoyable. If I found work fun, I wouldn't have called in sick today. I appreciate that you enjoy tanking. Recruit more of your friends to "work" for us who want to "play."
Here is part two of the awesome DF experience that WoW has...
This morning I queue first thing, go for breakfast, come back and knock off most TB daily quests. This is where it gets exciting. I get an invite to a daily instance!!! Woohoo the 40 minute wait was worth it! I take the invite and as soon as I enter the instance I get a TB invite. I cancel TB because offense always loses anyway.
It was immediately obvious that this run was in progress. Some of the bosses are down already. No problem. We run to the last boss and wait to for the tank to get there... but he isn't coming??!! He is afk. No problem. I vote to kick. This player cannot be kicked for another 26 minutes. WTF?
Group falls apart. I missed both the instance and TB. I'm now back in the queue.
Sure "roll a tank" is the easy answer. Tanking is flat out not enjoyable for most people. The argument of "roll a tank" is like saying to some guy who is complaining about a shortage of decent women out there to "just be gay."
I'm not complaining about WoW. WoW is based upon finding groups and killing instanced bosses. If you don't fit into those groups (not a tank or sleeping with raid leader), you wait. I have a raiding guild. Guess what? We are swamped with DPS too.
/2 DPS LF raiding guild that is short on DPS. PST.
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Trigeminal Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
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-Kurasis- posted:
Make healing/tanking more fun it is fun (FOR A MINORITY OF PLAYERS.)
Incentivize healers and tanks to pug they do, we get instant queues (YAY I GET TO GO TO WORK INSTANTLY. NOT FUN.)
6 person (4 dps) group size paradigm as if bosses werent easy enough already. (MAKE BOSSES HARDER?)
Allow DPS to do something more constructive while queued on their toon (e.g. queue for PVP/dungeon at same time--during BG or dungeon your queue position moves and when at the top holds a top spot when you exit your current dungeon or BG--OR allow players to be on one toon and queue for another toon--then when it pops it logs in that toon into the dungeon)go farm herbs/ore or do achaelogy while you queue, problem solved (RIDDLE OF THE DAY. WHICH IS MORE EXCITING? ARCHEOLOGY OR FISHING? /yawn)
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--Syrus-- Posts: 536
Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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My last two hours in WoW (endgame review?) |
I enjoy both healthing and tanking.
I enjoy the increased challenge and responsibility.
I enjoy the actual roles as well, I don't think Blizzard needs to make these roles more fun anymore then they need to make the dps classes more fun. If you don't like healing or tanking that is your personal preference, you are never going to change those roles in such a way that every single player is going to like them.
Making it possible for any class to heal or tank could be an idea. IMO DPS classes don't need 3 dps spec's if more of them had a heal or dps spec it might mitigate this problem a bit.
I could see a Warlock heal spec. Maybe even a Rogue tank spec. I know that it is not really a realistic request due to the amount of working and reworking of the entire game world this would take.
"Make tank and heal more fun." Isn't really a constructive idea IMO either though.
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Trigeminal Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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My last two hours in WoW (endgame review?) |
Those who tank don't see the problem.
Those who heal don't see the problem.
Those who only dps are in the middle of the problem.
Groups consist of:
1 tank
1 healer
3 DPS
The WoW population seems to be in the ratio of:
1 tank
2 healer
75 DPS
Once you run out of quests what can dps do? They can roll an alt (another DPS because most people don't enjoy tanking or healing), do crafting, fish or --> stand around in Orgrimmar. Even dailies eventually wear thin because money is not needed and reps are maxed.
I'd say at least let people queue for BGs while they wait. Sure you'd get someone mid BG who drops for an instance run but they'd get instantly replaced by another DPS in the BG queue. Blizzard throw us some sort of bone here.
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regulator_cracka  Title: They finally recognized greatness.
Posts: 3,726
Registered: 2009-1-6 15:07:53
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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My last two hours in WoW (endgame review?) |
AH, finally the truth appears.
Another dps entitlement thread. 
All dps only players must be only children.
Blizzard should really change the entire game to fit around your leeching off the people doing the real work.
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