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Liquid741  3 stars
Title: VN Sensei
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Registered: 2006-12-16 13:56:50
regulator_cracka posted:

AH, finally the truth appears.


Another dps entitlement thread.


All dps only players must be only children.


Blizzard should really change the entire game to fit around your leeching off the people doing the real work.



whole post is laughable.

 

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dendizner
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Because I play primarily healers as mains. My last day of WoW I could insta queue, where as the tank that was in my guild took 15 minutes to queue. If that wasn't a sign that healing was stupid and pointless and I should only queue as dps; I don't know what was.


Glad I quit.
Trigeminal  2 stars
Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
I've been laughing at regulator_cracka's "logic" for years. Seeing how he doesn't feel dps contribute to groups is no different than arguments he's had in the past.

 

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--Syrus--  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
Trigeminal posted:

Those who tank don't see the problem.

Those who heal don't see the problem.

Those who only dps are in the middle of the problem.


Groups consist of:

1 tank

1 healer

3 DPS


The WoW population seems to be in the ratio of:

1 tank

2 healer

75 DPS


Once you run out of quests what can dps do? They can roll an alt (another DPS because most people don't enjoy tanking or healing), do crafting, fish or --> stand around in Orgrimmar. Even dailies eventually wear thin because money is not needed and reps are maxed.


I'd say at least let people queue for BGs while they wait. Sure you'd get someone mid BG who drops for an instance run but they'd get instantly replaced by another DPS in the BG queue. Blizzard throw us some sort of bone here.



Those that only play DPS classes are the problem.

 

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regulator_cracka  4 stars
Title: They finally recognized greatness.
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Registered: 2009-1-6 15:07:53
Trigeminal posted:

I've been laughing at regulator_cracka's "logic" for years. Seeing how he doesn't feel dps contribute to groups is no different than arguments he's had in the past.



When did I say dps does not contribute? I said dps could not do it without the real meat of the group, tank and heal, which you said yourself.


You spoiled dps twits always cry about the same thing. I do not tank or heal, but the game should change for me. That was my "logic" and you qualify.


*How about a real game changer: All dps in a group get half the the xp, half the coin, and less chance at winning a roll over a tank or healer? Now that is a real game change we need. Then you get twice the fun.

 

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regulator_cracka  4 stars
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--Syrus-- posted:

Those that only play DPS classes are the problem.

 

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Trigeminal  2 stars
Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
regulator_cracka posted:

When did I say dps does not contribute?



regulator_cracka posted:

Blizzard should really change the entire game to fit around your leeching off the people doing the real work.



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--Syrus-- posted:

Those that only play DPS classes are the problem.



You hit the nail on the head. Unfortunate that the majority of WoW players favor the dps role. Oh well not my game. I'm just a player.

 

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yarfkat
Title: WoWVault Priest Captain
Posts: 9
Registered: 2009-8-25 12:22:30
Here are my characters and their roles:

Priest - Shadow main, Holy off.
Hunter - Pure DPS
Druid1 - Bear/kitty
Mage - Pure DPS
Warlock - Pure DPS
Warrior - Prot

Those are the classes that I'm playing mainly, right now. In the oder of main, main alt, second alt, so on so forth. Yeah... I enjoy healing. Yeah, I enjoy tanking. My favorite class? I am REEEEALLY enjoying my fire mage. Like, a lot. Like more than my priest (*Covers Rill's eyes so she doesn't take away priest captain-ness*)

So because I choose to play a class I'm really enjoying and having fun playing, I am just SOL? Not everyone is like me. My husband HATES tanking. He doesn't mind healing, but he prefers dps, because it's more fun to him. I have a friend who only plays tanks because he absolutely LOVES tanking. Another friend only plays healers because she loves healing. in four people, myself included, I have found that one prefers a pure DPS class/role to tanking/healing, and only one prefers either healing or tanking. I am the odd one out that doesn't mind doing any of them.

So looking at that, I then look at the behind-the-scenes stuff.

In guild:
DPS logs on. DPS asks - "Anyone want to run a heroic?" crickets... except maybe some other DPS... POSSIBLY a tank or healer.
Tank logs on. DPS asks - "OMG! TANK THIS HEROIC FOR ME!!!!!!1234" Tank logs off, rolls an alt, and hides.
Healer logs on. DPS asks - "OMG! HEAL THIS HEROIC FOR ME!!!!!!1234" Healer logs off, rolls an alt, sends a realid msg to the tank, the two level together and hide from the guild.

In whisper:
Mage/Warlock/Rogue/Hunter logs on and goes about their day.
DK/Warrior logs on, someone they've never met whispers "Are you a tank?"
Paladin/Druid logs on, someone they've never met whispers "Are you a tank or healer?"
Priest/Shaman logs on, someone they've never met whispers "Are you a healer?"


So then, the TLR? Most tanks and healers are hiding from you because you DPS won't leave them alone. They log on and it does become work, because they feel OBLIGATED to run instances the whole time. Especially if you're a guild member and you're asking over guild chat, the tank or healer are then put in the spotlight. If they say no, they're rude and not helping the guild. If they say yes, they're roped into running instances when all they did was come on to do their dailies and they have a screaming child next to them that is sick and needs a diaper changed.

Ask a general question "Anyone want to run heroics? Need a tank, healer, couple dps." That way you're leaving it open for others to choose for themselves if they want to run an instance. That tank with the sick kid can afk and not have to worry about a group waiting on them.

Hope this touches all sides of the debate so that each side can get a better understanding of what the DPS is experiencing, as well as what the tanks/healers are experiencing.

 

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--Syrus--  3 stars
Posts: 536
Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
Trigeminal posted:

You hit the nail on the head. Unfortunate that the majority of WoW players favor the dps role. Oh well not my game. I'm just a player.



I am not sure that is true. Or at least not the only contributer to the problem. Most of the players I know, and in my guild play at least 1 healer or tank.


Part of the problem I think is that DPS is available on every class where as Tank or Healer is not. I won't argue that DPS is a less stressful and therefore possible more attractive role for most of the player base. To that though, I fault the player base not the game design.


I just don't really see how you can take the easier roll and not expect their to be any downside to that.


If you don't want the responsibility of driving a car and so choose to ride a bike instead, its going to take longer to get to where you are going.

 

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JaredKorry  2 stars
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I have a pally healer and warrior tank. My healer has run/finished the majority of the heroics. My tank hasn't even finished 1 heroic. I will heal/tank a normal instance in a second, but you couldn't PAY me to put myself through the aggravation, stress, and frustration of tanking or healing a heroic in their current form. It's, plain and simple, not fun. I play this game for FUN.

If I'm not enjoying something, I won't keep doing it. Looks like many other tanks/healers feel the same way. Once the content has been "dumb downed", as some people like to disparagingly refer to it, I will be more then happy to start tanking/healing again. I'm not looking for a wrath lol faceroll. I agree, those instances were boring. I thoroughly enjoy the need to use strategy, kill order, cc, etc. I DON'T enjoy the "if anyone in the group makes the slightest mistake, you're screwed" format of our current heroics.

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