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Wish people would stop calling it work !
Guild xp is earned by doing all the fun stuff in the game you was going to do anyway.
Its like being rewarded for taking a pee.

The new system is not stopping people leaving.
I have had plenty leave my guild who are exalted purely because of our lack of progress raiding.
But people like the perks and Blizz should make it easier to regain that rep.
Either by not resetting it to 0 or allowing you to gain rep by wearing guild tabard same as you do with faction ones.

Some have differing views of what Guild Master should do comes back to that word job again.
The way I see Guild is self help group GM is first among equals others may lead raids dungeon runs etc.
GM decides what type of Guild it is and if you don’t like that why did you join ?

If you want democracy step back into the real world

 

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I don´t want to brag but I am somewhat happy how my guild leadership runs. My guild members are all equal... and there are some gnomes who are more equal than others! ;D

No seriously. There was drama from time but the core of the troop always held together. Truth is that the leadership never leaves enough feeding grounds for trolls and naive flamers. No yellow cards - instant kick if there is something like item drama for obvious reasons. Plus, we are a bunch of gnomes who takes things humorously, even during wipes.


Personally, I don´t know if any sort of "guild option" regarding democracy would really interest me. In almost every game, I just an average joe - your non-commissioned officer . Anyways, having periodic votings would not change much (for me) since the same dudes and gals would be voted, provided they stand up for candidacy (spelling).


@pallydog
ouch. bummer, m8





cool idea =) but I doubt blizzard would do that one. It would bring too much RP into the MMORPG..............

 

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Actually I like the idea of droping my guild rep to 0 and taking all the rep that I committed to the guild to 0. So to the guy that asked if he actually THOUGHT about it yeah some of us did. You must be the GM of your guild and hate the idea that you cannot manipulate people by threatening to boot them. I am tired of grinding for a guild. Everyone is talking about the REP and yes the rep and guild rewards are a fun thing. My issue is when I deposit 20 Truegold into the GB and then get booted cause the GM is takes them all sells them in the AH so he can apply it to his chopper fund, pisses me off. When I question him I got booted because I had no right to question how guild bank items are used.

He then booted all of my toons that had contributed JUST as much and 4 were exalted. So yeah they should have been punished due to one douchebag, and that douche would be the GM

You obviously don't understand the concept of a donation. If you didn't want people doing whatever they wanted with the items then don't donate them. Since you had 4 exalted toons in the guild you had to have been there long enough to know what kind of person the GM was so it's your own fault for being careless with your items.

You're the douchebag for trying to tell the GM how to run his guild.

 

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(non aggressive post from me btw)
You "deposit"´ed m8. Never donate what might be sought for later on, especially when it comes to such guild assets. You are better off asking if anybody needs the mat explicitly (sp) for any specific item (meaning "here and now" and not "later".
Putting a deposit like that will always result in somebody doing something with it. You are better off asking the guild for a nice trade and perhaps a favor in comeback.

Plus, that person must be good in the rules of acquistion.

Once you have their <money>, never give it back.
Don´t ask for <what> you can take.

Just a suggestion.

 

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A guild, like any social organization, can only work if the management is good.
In a video game where, as said above, half the people are either kids or retarded adults, you of course have to be careful about who you associate with.

I've met my guild leader in real life, he's a PHD in Applied Industrial Modelling: Exponential Asymptotics (don't ask me... but that means he's a math genius), definitely not a kid or a retard. He's also a natural leader, with the required charisma and patience. We don't recruit random people in trade chat, we have a trial period not for the ability to play (unless the guy really plays badly and doesn't want to improve of course), but to see if the person fits with us and if we fit with her too. Officers are nominated because there's a job to do, and not because they are the friends of the leader. We kicked several members in the past too because they behaved like asshats towards others.

I also had bad experiences in past guilds, notably with power-hungry kiddies who were leader/officer for the title and not for the job, an officers nominated because they were close friends to the leader. Finding the right guild takes some trying, just like you don't befriend anyone in the street or at the local bar in "real" life. If the guild doesn't fit, just quit.

 

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I don't find it at all unreasonable to expect items that get donated to the GUILD bank be used for the betterment/benefit of the GUILD as a whole. He didn't donate those items to the "help the GM get a chopper" bank. He donated it to the GUILD bank. He had a right to question the GM and protest the misuse of guild items. That would be like donating money to the Red Cross and having the director pocket the money for personal gain.

Guilds = group of friends. Anything more and you will run into problems. The introduction of progression as a guild dynamic destroys the guild experience. The ugly side of people shows itself when you dangle another carrot in front of them.

The problem is- guilds don't carry the same importance to every one. My guild is basically a chat channel with the same people every day. If I start to get annoyed or don't like the people, I will drop the guild like I drop a chat channel. I don't even know who the GM is. I don't care who the GM is, for that matter. The guild is there to run instances with, BG's, arenas, etc. I have zero loyalty to a guild. Why should I? It's a game I play in my spare time, I don't owe these strangers any loyalty. Guilds need to be a group of friends. Anything more progression based than that will lead to inevitable problems. I don't really see how to get around that.

 

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It's really not. And you probably don't want to know what percentage of charity donations goes to administration.

 

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