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Zero_Washu  2 stars
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Ghostcrapper is more like it... crapping on a formerly good game for how long?

 

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Kriegprojekt  3 stars
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TruthyID posted:

I think the GC quote from the OP is an attempt at humility. Somehow the guy just always seems to come across as a giant douche though. If they insist on keeping GC around they really ought to hire a PR person to communicate on his behalf. All GC seems to do is antagonize the playerbase every time he makes a public statement.

Honestly, what kind of douche says "ou're wrong. Next!" in business correspondence? That kind of rudeness and arrogance just isn't socially acceptable and certainly isn't professional. Reading this kind of nonsense makes me think that Blizzard is keeping GC around as part of the most elaborate display of trolling in history. Otherwise, I can't think of a single reason why they haven't canned this guy yet.



Someone who doesnt have any formal business training. I see "Peter Principle" all over this guy for some reason.

Like Ive said before, regardless of how HE wants to come across, its how hes perceived by the CUSTOMERS that is the most important thing. People think hes a douche. He should really start giving a shit about that and changing the way he communicates instead of continuing the way he does. Maybe hes not, but he sure as Hell reminds me of a nerd who got the crap kicked out of him in school, became a cop and now revels in the power the position appears to grant him.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
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Kriegprojekt posted:

Like Ive said before, regardless of how HE wants to come across, its how hes perceived by the CUSTOMERS that is the most important thing.



Haha! This is hilarious to me because I pretty much said the same thing to a moderator here on VN not long ago. Something like 'Intent is meaningless in the face of perception' or close to that. When you are representing a company in any fashion you can't just spew out whatever crap you want to since you aren't speaking for just yourself.

I wonder how many subscribers would return to WoW if Blizzard fired Ghostcrawler? I betcha it would be measurable.

 

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Rill_of_WE  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-8-6 09:16:33
Quazimortal posted:

Kriegprojekt posted:

Like Ive said before, regardless of how HE wants to come across, its how hes perceived by the CUSTOMERS that is the most important thing.



Haha! This is hilarious to me because I pretty much said the same thing to a moderator here on VN not long ago. Something like 'Intent is meaningless in the face of perception' or close to that. When you are representing a company in any fashion you can't just spew out whatever crap you want to since you aren't speaking for just yourself.

I wonder how many subscribers would return to WoW if Blizzard fired Ghostcrawler? I betcha it would be measurable.



The guy they replace him with would have to fix a lot of stuff before a noticeable amount of peeps would come back to wow IMO.

 

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bewhatever
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The person who doesn't get it is somewhere up the management chain from Ghostcrawler.


This whole PR campaign to humanize the devs smacks of someone further up trying to solve the wrong problem, and not having a clue.


Just like Cataclysm did so much damage to the game (which Blizzard spent an incredible amount of time and money doing) because whoever set the basic objectives for Ghostcrawler's team to meet didn't have a clue who his (won't be a her) customers are, and what they want. Or were and wanted, anyhow.


The rumor when I showed up to work in Silicon valley 30+ years ago was that when something like this happened Dave Packard would fire 3 layers of managers just to be sure the one who really didn't get it was gone. (Activision Board of Directors, are you listening?)


With all the PR around Netflix the last 6 months...think about it...Netflix is doing great compared to Blizzard.
Quazimortal  4 stars
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Rill_of_WE posted:

The guy they replace him with would have to fix a lot of stuff before a noticeable amount of peeps would come back to wow IMO.



You really think the actual fixes would have to come out first? I dunno, maybe, but I think a sizable portion of people would return just to support the removal of GC. I have a feeling that that prick is gonna be sticking around though, so this is all just hopeful dreaming on my part.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
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bewhatever posted:

whoever set the basic objectives for Ghostcrawler's team to meet didn't have a clue who his (won't be a her) customers are, and what they want.



Awwwwwww, isn't the sexist cuuuuuuuute.

Hate to break it to ya but women aren't perfect either so it is 100% possible that the person you are describing could have been a woman.

Sexists are so fun to laugh at...

 

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Auenwing  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-12-27 23:23:12
Quazimortal posted:

bewhatever posted:

whoever set the basic objectives for Ghostcrawler's team to meet didn't have a clue who his (won't be a her) customers are, and what they want.



Awwwwwww, isn't the sexist cuuuuuuuute.


Hate to break it to ya but women aren't perfect either so it is 100% possible that the person you are describing could have been a woman.


Sexists are so fun to laugh at...



I don't think he's being sexist. I think he's being fairly savvy to what could be Blizzard's good-old-boy culture. Good gawd, Quazi, you KNOW females don't play MMO's, what makes you think a female could MANAGE one?


-Ouch, I poked my cheek too hard with my tongue.


Seriously, I know he's saying a female wouldn't be that stupid. I understand the level of management we are talking about here.

 

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Auenwing  3 stars
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Rill_of_WE posted:

Quazimortal posted:

Kriegprojekt posted:

Like Ive said before, regardless of how HE wants to come across, its how hes perceived by the CUSTOMERS that is the most important thing.



Haha! This is hilarious to me because I pretty much said the same thing to a moderator here on VN not long ago. Something like 'Intent is meaningless in the face of perception' or close to that. When you are representing a company in any fashion you can't just spew out whatever crap you want to since you aren't speaking for just yourself.


I wonder how many subscribers would return to WoW if Blizzard fired Ghostcrawler? I betcha it would be measurable.



The guy they replace him with would have to fix a lot of stuff before a noticeable amount of peeps would come back to wow IMO.



Well, if they turn the clock back, scrap Cat and return to LK and go forward from there, I think his replacement might have a chance.


And yes, the minute you put on your "corporate badge", you are not speaking for yourself, you are speaking for your company. And Blizzard, overall, has never been particularly professional in any of its "published" comments.

 

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bewhatever
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Quazimortal posted:

bewhatever posted:

whoever set the basic objectives for Ghostcrawler's team to meet didn't have a clue who his (won't be a her) customers are, and what they want.



Awwwwwww, isn't the sexist cuuuuuuuute.


Hate to break it to ya but women aren't perfect either so it is 100% possible that the person you are describing could have been a woman.


Sexists are so fun to laugh at...



Hate to say this, but in the real world, especially in male dominated environments, females are held to a higher standard. Not supposed to be that way but it is. "Glass ceiling" and all.


A female able to survive in the chain of command above Ghostcrawler, in the male dominated Blizzard environment, wouldn't be this stupid.


Come back and talk to me when you've been in the work world for decades, and paid attention. Until then, perhaps the condescension is misplaced.



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