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Boone-Eldar  Title: Infallible
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Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
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MinionX-DW posted:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/4055148?page=1#page-comments
My personal favorite part.
"Look, we tried the talent tree model for seven years. We think it’s fundamentally flawed and unfixable. We know some of you have faith in us that someday we’ll eventually replace all of the boring +5% crit talents with interesting talents and give you 80 talent points that you can spend wherever, and that the game will still remain relatively balanced and fun. We greatly appreciate your faith, but we fear it is misplaced. It’s not a matter of coming up with enough fun mechanics, which is challenging but ultimately doable. The problem is the extreme number of combinations. When you have such a gigantic matrix, the chances of having unbeatable synergies, or combinations of talents that just don’t work together is really high. That’s not lazy design. That is recognizing how math works."
In other words
"We can't do what Trion has done with Rift, because we're bad"
Trions design philosophy consists of throwing a billion choices at you, and if something is overpowered, throw in a counter somewhere and watch people take advantage of it, and if that doesn't work, just Nerf it, you have a Billion other things to choose from.
Blizzard designs philosophy consists of "It's to hard... lets do something else"
Is Rift your new Warhammer?
lol
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TruthyID  Posts: 189
Registered: 2010-7-7 12:52:20
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I think the GC quote from the OP is an attempt at humility. Somehow the guy just always seems to come across as a giant douche though. If they insist on keeping GC around they really ought to hire a PR person to communicate on his behalf. All GC seems to do is antagonize the playerbase every time he makes a public statement.
Honestly, what kind of douche says "  ou're wrong. Next!" in business correspondence? That kind of rudeness and arrogance just isn't socially acceptable and certainly isn't professional. Reading this kind of nonsense makes me think that Blizzard is keeping GC around as part of the most elaborate display of trolling in history. Otherwise, I can't think of a single reason why they haven't canned this guy yet. |
MinionX-DW Posts: 74
Registered: 2002-1-3 03:31:16
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_Taebo_ posted:
MinionX-DW posted:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/4055148?page=1#page-comments
"We can't do what Trion has done with Rift, because we're bad"
Trions design philosophy consists of throwing a billion choices at you, and if something is overpowered, throw in a counter somewhere and watch people take advantage of it, and if that doesn't work, just Nerf it, you have a Billion other things to choose from.
Blizzard designs philosophy consists of "It's to hard... lets do something else"
I don't like GC or agree with his statement, but can you really say Rift is balanced? I saw some of the problems GC is talking about in Rift. Many useless filler talents or +5 to crit 3/3 or 5/5 type talents. That's what happens in these open talent type systems, people find a way to maximize on certain builds. Then it gets nerfed and then everyone gets pissed.
AC2 had the same problem. They weakened you if you started spending points in other trees. This crap has been going on for years.
Rift isn't balanced, but pretty every game with more then 1 class, will never be balanced.
Hell, you don't even need classes to have unbalanced "classes", UO proved that.
Point is Trion knows this, and Blizzard seems to think there won't be a cookie cutter or overpowered spec... with an even more dumbed down system.
As for Boone, notice I didn't use Warhammer Online as a comparison, because Rift is closer to WoW in terms of Talent systems. Instead of going to wussy route and dumbing down their game, they went full all out and let you have even more choices.
If your class doesn't have a counter in that game, you're either overpowered and will be nerfed, or people just haven't found the counter to you yet.
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MinionX-DW Posts: 74
Registered: 2002-1-3 03:31:16
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If you want a flaw in the system, how about this..
as a Protection Warrior, I'd have to buy this expansion, and level to 90... before I could get back an ability I had in Wrath of the Lich king.
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Auenwing  Title: straightface
Posts: 589
Registered: 2002-12-27 23:23:12
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Rill_of_WE posted:
I thought my hubby was paraphrasing when he told me GC said " ou're wrong. Next." Then I read it for myself. He ACTUALLY said it. Twice. You just can't say things like that and expect people to still respect you. Despite some things he's said in other posts I still respected the guy for holding a difficult job. He's lost my respect now and I find it saddening. You don't kill the golden goose in order to get more golden eggs. That's what they're doing.
You must have been talking to my husband as well, because he's been saying that since Cata came out.
Yes, that's sad. Not surprising though. Blizzard apparently has a company culture of arrogance, a habit of telling their customers how to play, and unwise published statements containing both. I started saying that during Vanilla.
So much truth being posted by the folks on this thread... /salute
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Auenwing Title: straightface
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Registered: 2002-12-27 23:23:12
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PS:
Ghostcrawler says: You're going to love our next expansion!
You're wrong. Next!
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Rill_of_WE Title: WoW Vault Site Manager
Posts: 557
Registered: 2002-8-6 09:16:33
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Auenwing posted:
PS:
Ghostcrawler says: You're going to love our next expansion!
You're wrong. Next!
lol
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Arcilite_I  Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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Rill_of_WE posted:
Auenwing posted:
PS:
Ghostcrawler says: You're going to love our next expansion!
You're wrong. Next!
lol
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Bottom line on this is that it's just a further dumbing down and simplification of the game for casuals who want to spend 10 minutes a night during commercials of Jersey Shore and American Idol and have access to everything the game offers any player at all.
Unfortunately, the casuals that are even more casual than this place, outnumber you, and outnumber especially the hard core players, so Blizzard is listening to them and their dollars.
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Ugh_Lancelot Title: Ooo...bouncy!
Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
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Auenwing posted:
PS:
Ghostcrawler says: You're going to love our next expansion!
You're wrong. Next!
I laughed.
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