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Quazimortal  4 stars
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Stupidity is not a requirement for making a mistake.

 

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Quazimortal posted:

Stupidity is not a requirement for making a mistake.



Agreed. I make mistakes all the time. Not understanding your customers, consistently, over a period of years isn't a mistake. It's stupidity.
Auenwing  3 stars
Title: straightface
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Registered: 2002-12-27 23:23:12
Quazimortal posted:

Stupidity is not a requirement for making a mistake.



I think we'd all agree with that. Mistakes happen. And sometimes it's a just a one-time judgement error. Bad data. Internal politics. Happens for a variety of reasons.


When they happen repeatedly in an almost predictable pattern, then you can start thinking about the root cause, which in the case of Mr. Street and his management, seems to be quite obvious.


edit: I've always told my kids, if you're not making mistakes, you're not learning.


Do you think Blizzard has demonstrated learning from GC's mistakes?

 

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-Peo-  2 stars
Title: Caveat Lector
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Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
Actually, Quazi is spot on. Your posts are sexist. You are attributing qualities to a person or persons based on their gender, not their actual intelligence, competence or qualifications.

That is, by definition, sexist. But then, many woman complain about a man's superior attitude out of one side of their mouths, while extolling their own virtues out of the other. It is called double standard, and your posts are textbook double standard.

 

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Sociop  2 stars
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So in other words GC is saying that there are a lot of variables in the game (which there have bee since it was release) but instead of doing his job dealing with them, which he can, he is instead going to take them away( which he has been systematically doing since BC)to make it easier on himself.

Greg Street is by definition a product of the "ME" generation of that there is no doubt.
Kriegprojekt  3 stars
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Sociop posted:

So in other words GC is saying that there are a lot of variables in the game (which there have bee since it weas release) but instead of doing his job dealing with them, which he can, he is instead going to take them away( which he has been systematically doing since BC)to make it easier on himself.

Greg Street is by definition a product of the "ME" generation of that there is no doubt.



"Its too haaaard"


Heh

 

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Auenwing  3 stars
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-Peo- posted:

Actually, Quazi is spot on. Your posts are sexist. You are attributing qualities to a person or persons based on their gender, not their actual intelligence, competence or qualifications.


That is, by definition, sexist. But then, many woman complain about a man's superior attitude out of one side of their mouths, while extolling their own virtues out of the other. It is called double standard, and your posts are textbook double standard.



I'm actually glad to see that this is the prevailing attitude now. Hopefully that means that the current corporate biases will eventually disappear one day and take the glass ceiling with it.


Until then, unfortuately, even at CEO levels, as the phrase goes: women have to work twice as hard to get half as far still exists, even at some of "the best" companies world wide. (And Blizzard doesn't even make that list.)


And as far as You are attributing qualities to a person or persons based on their gender, not their actual intelligence, competence or qualifications, no we are not. We are saying a female can't be seen as even remotely incompetent and continue to maintain her position. It's a lot less obvious than it was 35 years ago; unfortunately, that culture is still there.


-Understands all too well what that means getting in the door, staying there, and promoting AA hiring in a hostile environment.

 

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-Peo- posted:

Actually, Quazi is spot on. Your posts are sexist. You are attributing qualities to a person or persons based on their gender, not their actual intelligence, competence or qualifications.


That is, by definition, sexist. But then, many woman complain about a man's superior attitude out of one side of their mouths, while extolling their own virtues out of the other. It is called double standard, and your posts are textbook double standard.



First, sorry I brought gender up. That was a mistake, one of many I made this week, and detracted from this thread, which is about Ghostcrawler lacking the skills needed to be lead game developer of a game I would want to play.


Second: In the early 1980s, straight out of school, in a progressive work environment that was roughly hiring and promoting a 50/50 mix of men and women in a gender blind way, I was as idealistic as you are today. I really thought we had a gender blind meritocracy. Took several years before my mentor pulled me aside and said look what's happening here, and here, and here. The capable women are leaving this part of the organization, they're not advancing there, and when it comes to the subjective measurements of leadership skill equal results aren't as valued in this third place. Despite the fact that the % of women entering the engineering work force is lower now than it was 30 years ago, I truly hope that the idealism of people entering the workforce today is the reality that generation experiences between now and 2050.
-Peo-  2 stars
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First, get over yourself. You assume, incorrectly, that everyone is foolish, young and idealistic. We are not. You were fresh out of school in the 80's? Good for you, class of 87 here. I understand the way the world works just fine. My beef is with the double standard presented by woman. You do not get to demand to be treated like equals then get cutsie, bat eyelashes and simper about being feminine.

I have nothing but respect for people (not gender specific) that maintain their integrity and are true to themselves. Honestly, though I am fairly certain you aren't trying to, you are coming across as holier than thou and hypocritical.

Second, your perception and conclusions are not the end all be all of reality. The reality of the situation is, there are times when woman have a legitimate beef. There are also times when they play the victim card. I am sad about the former, but I abhor the latter.

 

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-Peo-  2 stars
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Auenwing posted:

And as far as You are attributing qualities to a person or persons based on their gender, not their actual intelligence, competence or qualifications, no we are not. We are saying a female can't be seen as even remotely incompetent and continue to maintain her position.



Yes, you are.


But it is useless to argue the point. Since you are obviously going to spin it the way you want to maintain your stance.

 

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