That pre-supposes you're willing to pay a recurring monthly subscription for a game you don't have the time to play. That's your choice.


Like SWTOR, Skyrim will cost you more once you start playing it, however, because you'll have to pay for the additional downloadable content.

and who said i was? this thread was based on the opinion of whether the game is good or not, and i gave my opinion. get off your fking high horse. i'm not asking for anything to be given to me for nothing. i quite clearly stated i was willing to pay. the gaming public shouldn't be punished because ea threw hundreds of millions at bioware to make a subpar and inferior game that has hours upon hours of vocal dialog people might hear once. and f2p games make more money than they did when they were a sub based game. if anything, the f2p model is better than subscriptions because of it. you have to have a ridiculously successful game to make money off your subs these days. and wow has that market cornered. swtor isn't going to take that base away from wow. it's not good enough to compete with them on that level. however, it could easily take the f2p market away from lotro, who, ddo, etc.. though.

you are a ridiculous and stupid person for thinking skyrim will cost anyone anything after they've purchased it. no one is forced to buy dlc to keep playing. bethesda doesn't send out a patch you can't not download that disables the game on you until you buy their crappy dlc.

 

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My bad, I forgot to put an "and" before collector edition. The collector edition is $110 or something with special in game items + statutes and what not. Anyways, I have always though collector's editions are a waste of money because I am not a big statue fan, I buy the game for the game itself. in the end, my opinion is just different than yours I might try out GW2 when it comes out we will see.


Anyways, OP here is my take on the game.


Background of myself: I am a power gamer, who rushes to max level in every game. I don't stop to smell the roses at all. I could care less about story line, I am all about the game play.


Some of my points are both positive and negatives.


Pros:

Great immersion into the star wars environment. The quests (have dialogue where you can choose what to say. you can kill people or save them). I have always skipped the dialogue of the quests in every game, except this one. For some reason I get immersed into the quests. I love the crafting system because you can send your companions out to gather crafting mats while you play the game, such as pvping. Now the problem is that your companions are the only ones who can craft, so you can't craft a item in 30s for someone in trade chat. You level crafting through your companions, which is a huge plus for me because I hate crafting. One of their professions is called slicing. Slicing allows you to spend a little bit of credit to send them on a mission to retrieve a box, which usually contains more credits then you spent. I think of those missions like daily quests that give good money without really making a huge effort to farm money. This way I can go pvp or if I am reading a book every 30m i can send my companions on a mission to farm me credit.


Cons:

Every damn quest has dialogue attached to it. Once you have done the quests a few times, it will be a huge PITA to constantly spamming space bar to skip all the cut scenes. There are 8 advanced classes per side, but the advanced classes change the class considerably. That's not the problem, but it has to do with you having the same set of storyline quests for 2 completely different classes. If I want to be a pyrotech BH and then roll a merc BH I have the same damn class quests. Some of the classes just feel weird as hell because of their specs. Playing a commando as a healer shooting a huge green beam to heal is weird. Seeing a bounty hunter as a melee class is weird. The faction imbalance is huge with a 25/75 split favoring the dark side. Only one pvp instance can the same faction fight against each other, so if you do play the dark side you will get hutt ball 90% of the time.


In the end I am not sure how long SWTOR will keep me occupied, but I don't consider this game a WoW killer or a new innovative game.

 

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No more ridiculous and stupid than for thinking SWTOR will cost anyone anything after they've purchased it. You get a free month's play for the price of the box and no-one is forced to subscribe.


Skyrim and SWTOR both cost much the same to buy and play for a month or so, by which time you've probably finished Skyrim and have come to the end of the free month in SWTOR. To play beyond that you either pay for downloadable content with Skyrim or else subscribe to SWTOR. If you don't want to do either then fine, you've had a month's entertainment for the price of the box with either game.


Offline games used to be great value for money when the whole came game for a fixed price and the content was enough to offer unlimited replayability, literally for ever. Now offline developers have caught on to the idea of releasing their games in the same unfinished state as online ones and charging for the missing content through downloading. No-one is forced to buy that content any more than they are forced to pay after the first month in an online game, but they won't benefit from the game's evolving content unless they do so. Also, with some offline games you can only install them a few times after which you have to buy them again so the old concept of paying a single price to play an offline game forever has largely gone.

If anything, this is proof companies should rotate beta testers during phases instead of keeping the same ones for 1+ years. Looks like you burned yourself out of the game before it was even released. Personally, if SW:TOR keeps me busy for 1 year, it will be an excellent investment.



At least you made it clear why you are gonna miss what makes SW:TOR different from other games.

 

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Really? The three friends I know who've been playing it have put 50+ hours into it each, one has played over 100 hours. Man, I don't think I've had 100 free hours in a month to play a game since college. I've put almost 30 hours into zelda and that has been almost a month, still need to finish that. Then on to Skyrim! Think I'll be busy till March and will have tons of free content added through the user base. <shrug>

Thanks for making my point. Someone says you can think of TOR as a RPG and you could get that value of it. It's not. I bought Skyrim and if it takes 1 month or a year to finish, the cost is the same. Buy TOR and if you don't finish in the first month it will cost you more.

And please don't go into how you could unsub, then sub and then unsub as you have time, not realistic.

Tough choice.. GW2 is still a ways off and ArcheAge may be a year or more out..

seffrid is one of the dumbest people i've ever seen on this board. tor costs you to play it each month. skyrim does not. you're goddamn retarded if you can't understand that.

 

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i would honestly wait a month if you're at all hesitant about swtor. by then the queues should be sorted out at least.

 

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