the typical lesbian is not fun to look at in my experience. they tend to look like a mess by choice. gay men are almost always at least well put together.

that said, i'd rather watch two fugly lesbians get it on than two anderson coopers every day and twice on sunday.

 

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Huh. Never come across that. I'll take your word for it though.


There's definitely a gender specific component though because because women arn't really known for raping people. I'm sure your average woman is much more afraid of being raped by a man than a woman (or of being hit on by a man you don't like, for that matter), and your average man is also much more afraid of being raped by a man than a woman.

The issue is related to patriarchal views of male dominance.

Gender equality hasn't always been as prevalent as it is, especially in western culture. Women, from a cultural perspective, have often been viewed as "lesser than" their male counterparts. Thus, it is often an insult to a man to be feminized in any way. This is evident in derogatory language such as "pussy" to describe a weak man, or in sayings such as "ou throw like a girl".

From a heterosexual point of view, male homosexual sex must force one or both participants into being "feminized", and essentially treated as a woman. This lowers their social status by seemingly taken on the role of what is perceived as the weaker gender.

This is ultimately what grosses most straight men out about homosexual sex. The notion that a man would freely allow himself to be feminized is socially repulsive to the average man.

In contrast, two lesbians engaging in sex are either feminizing each other - which is a status quo change of social class - or one is even asserting a dominate role, which is actually a climb up the social ladder. Therefore the act is not seen with nearly the same level as disgust as the same act between two men.

An interesting illustrative example is the socially condoned homosexual sex that existed in ancient Greek culture. Homosexual acts were widely accepted at the time; however, only between older men and very young men. It could only be that an older, bearded, man could have a relationship with a very young man, or even pubescent boy. Culturally, this was accepted, as the old man was feminizing someone of socially lesser rank, and therefore was retaining his dominant nature. Same-sex relationships involved two older men were seen as perverse and degrading, as at least one of the men would have had to allow himself to be feminized for the act to have taken place.

 

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Well Played Sin... Well Played.


I still don't like the idea of putting something in my butt though, no matter how empowered my wife or friends might feel to do so...

 

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Then don't.


Throughout history for some reason it's pretty much only men that have felt a need to say what random people can or cannot do in the bedroom with other consenting adults.

You missed the point very nearly in its entirety.

 

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Me either. My wife doesn't either. My understanding is that there are also plenty of gay men who do not like that particular act, and engage in sex via other methods.

Here is an interesting paragraph from Wikipedia describing the contempt in ancient Greece for same-age same-sex male homosexuality:





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece

 

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No, I just didn't have anything to say about that point.


I wasn't trying to single you out.

Four pages into a thread about lesbians, and there is only one picture of hot lesbians?

 

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Remind me not to trust you to order if we ever go out on a booze binge!!

 

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