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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
SoBaKi posted:

Sony is an international corporation.



He's in charge of the whole company. Not just the international division.


You would have marched in there and told Sony they didn't have a right to hire a non-Japanese speaking manager because they couldn't possibly know what they were doing better than you, the government, does.
Voodoo-Dahl  2 stars
Posts: 469
Registered: 2002-5-11 05:11:16
Rueters posted:

Cabrera, a U.S. citizen born in Yuma, Arizona, declined to comment immediately after the ruling, but an attorney for the candidate said she would speak to reporters on Wednesday.

Though Cabrera was born in Yuma, she moved to Mexico when she was young and spent much of her childhood there. She returned to Arizona for the last three years of high school, eventually graduating from Yuma's public Kofa High School.





So she could graduate high school in Yuma but somehow be unable to communicate with people in her community? The article also says.


Rueters posted:

Cabrera acknowledged to Reuters that her command of English was not perfect but said she can read it, understand and respond. During the interview, she spoke with intensity and passion, but sometimes in the wrong tense, or with the order of words scrambled.



This complete bullshit. A racist law from a racist state.
Koneg  3 stars
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Are you going to vote for my proposed ordinance or not Yuki?

 

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imaloon1  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
Yukishiro1 posted:

Bowlartz posted:

Odds are the majority of them aren't here legally if they can't speak English in which case, it is irrelevant. Or do you really want to tell me that people who are legal residents of the US include anything but a handful of people who can't speak some basic level of English?





Do you have any idea of American history?

And to the extent this argument makes any sense it argues against the law. If there's no need why pass another law that forces everyone to take a test?



People are scared shitless Yuki and they believe what the box is telling them about who the next door boogey man is today.


That's why the system is failing on such a massive scale right now. There are no good people left to do the right thing or spread the right message. (IMHO)

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Tych2 posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

Tych2 posted:

lol Yuki the test thing is dumb. Here read this page aloud. Okay you passed or okay you failed.



I will bet dollars to donuts they probably spent tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars designing the test.

Of course they will. This is the government, an entity run by morons. But that argument is dumb in my opinion. I would stick with the other stronger arguments.



It's not a main argument. It's just funny to see people justifying the law on the basis of cost savings when it probably costs way more than it "saves." Because how many places are really going to elect mayors who need interpreters? But meanwhile you have to spend tons of money designing and administering the test.
Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Koneg posted:

Are you going to vote for my proposed ordinance or not Yuki?



You know, I have this amazing thing called a dictionary. And if that doesn't work, I have this even more amazing thing called asking an interpreter to translate the document. Which probably happens anyway, since in my town many of the people speak Spanish too so we need translations of anything important anyhow.


And if I really, really can't figure things out I'll call up Howard Stringer and ask what he does when he gets reports written in Japanese that he needs to comment on.
SoBaKi  2 stars
Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
Yukishiro1 posted:

SoBaKi posted:

Sony is an international corporation.



He's in charge of the whole company. Not just the international division.


You would have marched in there and told Sony they didn't have a right to hire a non-Japanese speaking manager because they couldn't possibly know what they were doing better than you, the government, does.



I didn't say he was over just the international division. But there is a HUGE difference between a FOR PROFIT, International corporation hiring a CEO who doesn't speak the language of the country the corporation is incorporated and a local/county/state/federal political position regardless of country.


Again, I know you know this but for whatever reason, you WANT to debate this subject.

 

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Koneg  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
Yukishiro1 posted:

I have this even more amazing thing called asking an interpreter to translate the document.

Then we should be electing the interpreter.


You're finally catching on!

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Because your argument is so clearly ridiculous.


If you think it's important don't vote for her. If the people of the town want to vote for her anyway, what right do you have to tell them they can't because she doesn't measure up to your standards?


All your arguments are "it'd be a bad idea to elect her." We don't normally strip people of their right to run for office because we think they'd be bad at the job.
Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Koneg posted:

Then we should be electing the interpreter.


You're finally catching on!






Seriously. That is probably the single dumbest thing I've read on the Outpost all month.


Send Sony a letter. Tell them they should fire their CEO and hire his interpreter to be the CEO instead.

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