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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Ashmaele posted:

Maybe not, but it also doesn't justify not holding the home schooled kids to whatever minimum/up-for-debate standards to which the kids who attend schools are held.



What does sports have to do with homeschooling standards?

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

Ashmaele posted:

Maybe not, but it also doesn't justify not holding the home schooled kids to whatever minimum/up-for-debate standards to which the kids who attend schools are held.



What does sports have to do with homeschooling standards?



Ask the public school administrators. Or do you think there should be no academic standards at all, and no consequences for not maintaining a minimum GPA in each class? Should we let any kid who wants to play sports play sports, academics be damned?

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Ashmaele posted:

Ask the public school administrators. Or do you think there should be no academic standards at all, and no consequences for not maintaining a minimum GPA in each class? Should we let any kid who wants to play sports play sports, academics be damned?



Who said anything about no academic standards for homeschooling?


I am asking why are the standards different for kids that want to play sports?

 

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Rosaria  2 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

I would also be all for school becoming more segmented like College is so parents can pick and choose classes.




I agree. It would have the potential for streamlining education further.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

Ashmaele posted:

Ask the public school administrators. Or do you think there should be no academic standards at all, and no consequences for not maintaining a minimum GPA in each class? Should we let any kid who wants to play sports play sports, academics be damned?



Who said anything about no academic standards for homeschooling?

I am asking why are the standards different for kids that want to play sports?



Oh well that's a whole 'nother conversation entirely. I assume these no-pass-no-play standards were put in place to ensure that student athletes weren't just in school to learn Football or Basketball and to encourage (force?) them to strive for academic as well as athletic achievement.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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I have no problem with standards by the way. I don't really see why you need a new set of standards for sports kids but whatever.


What is really stupid IMO is not allowing them to play because they are home schooled which just punishes all home school kids arbitrarily.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

I have no problem with standards by the way. I don't really see why you need a new set of standards for sports kids but whatever.



I'm not talking about a new set of standards, I'm talking about applying an existing set of standards to a new group of participants.

Should participating in sports should be divorced from actually attending class? Or just for the kids whose parents are idiots and allow their kids to "homeschool" to lift weights, study playbooks and work on drills? Are you advocating for publically funded youth sports programs not tied to the public education system? I can maybe buy into that. I can imagine why we might see sport as a public good (for reasons I find personally questionable, like keeping kids fit and disciplined for compulsory military service and fast integration should the need arise) -- but no reason to tie it to academics or education. Or maybe the converse, where public schools and the states get out of the business of subsidizing amateur athletic activity altogether.

But given the current status quo, it seems unfair to setup a two-tiered system where some kids get to stay home and work on football drills all day and other kids have to actually attend class and perform their classwork to maintain standing/eligbility to play.

 

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Rosaria  2 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

What is really stupid IMO is not allowing them to play because they are home schooled which just punishes all home school kids arbitrarily.

That's the issue and there is no justification for it.

 

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Rosaria  2 stars
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Ashmaele posted:

Sin_of_Onin posted:

I have no problem with standards by the way. I don't really see why you need a new set of standards for sports kids but whatever.



I'm not talking about a new set of standards, I'm talking about applying an existing set of standards to a new group of participants.


Should participating in sports should be divorced from actually attending class? Or just for the kids whose parents are idiots and allow their kids to "homeschool" to lift weights, study playbooks and work on drills? Are you advocating for publically funded youth sports programs not tied to the public education system? I can maybe buy into that. I can imagine why we might see sport as a public good (for reasons I find personally questionable, like keeping kids fit and disciplined for compulsory military service and fast integration should the need arise) -- but no reason to tie it to academics or education. Or maybe the converse, where public schools and the states get out of the business of subsidizing amateur athletic activity altogether.


But given the current status quo, it seems unfair to setup a two-tiered system where some kids get to stay home and work on football drills all day and other kids have to actually attend class and perform their classwork to maintain standing/eligbility to play.

That's a completely false argument. Who says kids stay home all day and work on football drills?

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Rosaria posted:

That's a completely false argument. Who says kids stay home all day and work on football drills?



I am not saying that kids stay home all day and work on football drills. I am saying that kids who DO stay home all day and work on football drills under the guise of being "home schooled" (see the example I posted above) should not get to skate by the academic standards the kids who attend school are held to.

 

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