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Ashmaele  Title: Pastor of Muppets
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From a tax standpoint I agree that it is certainly a no-brainer and IMHO highlights the problems inherent with the way local communities fund public schools (primarily with property taxes which imho is not the best/fairest way to do it).
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Ashmaele posted:
Tych2 posted:
I don't know why anyone wouldn't support this law. Seems like common sense to me.
It is common sense that public school kids have to pass in order to play but the same criteria shouldn't be applied to home schooled kids?
Okay then..
I don't know.. is it?
I am pretty sure homeschoolers in MA have to pass certain criteria to be able to graduate. Are you really against home schooled children playing sports with public schooled children?
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Tych2 posted:
Are you really against home schooled children playing sports with public schooled children?
I don't have a problem with it provided that the home schooled kids are held to the same standards as the kids who show up at school every day. Would need more info as to whether or not this is the case, though. If there is not a way to verify this this I would be against it.
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
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Ashmaele posted:
From the article I linked:
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Opponents, including some school boards and PTAs, say home-schooled kids are not required to meet the same academic criteria as public school athletes — attend and pass five classes per day
Supporters of this: Is this not a valid point?
If your kid is homeschooled past grade 8, they still need to participate in standardized testing (maybe even before that, I'm not completely sure). If they perform poorly on the tests, they shouldn't be taking extracurricular activities at the school.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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ZigmundZag posted:
Ashmaele posted:
From the article I linked:
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Opponents, including some school boards and PTAs, say home-schooled kids are not required to meet the same academic criteria as public school athletes — attend and pass five classes per day
Supporters of this: Is this not a valid point?
If your kid is homeschooled past grade 8, they still need to participate in standardized testing (maybe even before that, I'm not completely sure). If they perform poorly on the tests, they shouldn't be taking extracurricular activities at the school.
I get where you're coming from, but this is not the standard the public school kids are required to meet.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Tych2 posted:
I don't know why anyone wouldn't support this law. Seems like common sense to me.
Coaching the kids will be extremely difficult. The logistics involved alone are mind boggling. Then there's a fairness issue - what district to they register with?
Ash raised a fair question about academic integrity. Homeschooled kids are held to a lesser standard Academically as far as Mommy\Daddy can just give them a passing grade so they can play.
Then there's liability and insurance complications.
I'm not really looking at this as parent, but rather a coach. Which is already a thankless damn job (well, volunteer, a LOT of coaches aren't paid.)
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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Ashmaele posted:
I could see it working out if the parents had different work schedules like this, but this is the exception not the norm.
I am under the impression the norm is that the parents work really hard to provide education to their children. Even within the religious groups that push home schooling.
There are three major reasons to home school, religion, quality of education, and social issues. There are groups that support home schooling parents and they tend to work together.
There is a massive stigma placed on homeschooling because of the religion connection and due to the fact many of the children have social issues. People that don't like homeschooling like to act like it creates these social issues as opposed to being done as a result of these social issues.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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Taliesihne posted:
Tych2 posted:
I don't know why anyone wouldn't support this law. Seems like common sense to me.
Coaching the kids will be extremely difficult. The logistics involved alone are mind boggling. Then there's a fairness issue - what district to they register with?
Ash raised a fair question about academic integrity. Homeschooled kids are held to a lesser standard Academically as far as Mommy\Daddy can just give them a passing grade so they can play.
Then there's liability and insurance complications.
I'm not really looking at this as parent, but rather a coach. Which is already a thankless damn job (well, volunteer, a LOT of coaches aren't paid.)
How are those even issues?
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Ashmaele posted:
Allstarslacker posted:
The academic criteria are there to make sure the school and students are more focused on education than sports. In a home school environment the parent is responsible for making that call. I'm sure a good parent wouldn't let their child play if they were falling behind on their studies.
A 'good parent' might not, but I think you are underestimating the lengths to which parents will go to 'provide' (insert your definition of that here) for their children.
Are there controls in place to ensure that Little Johnny (and not Big Johnny Senior) took the tests and passed the courses? (I honestly do not know)
Seems like it would be easy for dad to say, "Look! My son got all A's, put him in at quarterback, coach!" when dad was the one who took the tests. Unless the kid takes his tests at some kind of monitored testing center how would you prevent something like this?
http://www.floridaschoolchoice.org/information/home_education/FAQs.asp#Evaluation
I'm sure they are different from state to state, but I'd imagine most of them require the child to be evaluated by someone other than the parents.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Taliesihne posted:
Then there's a fairness issue - what district to they register with?
Just register with the district they would be in if they were in public school.
Taliesihne posted:
Ash raised a fair question about academic integrity. Homeschooled kids are held to a lesser standard Academically as far as Mommy\Daddy can just give them a passing grade so they can play.
If it is okay with the state to graduate then I am okay with it.
As I said, I can't see this affecting a lot of children to begin with. Why ostracize them further because of actions not of their doing. I support inclusion.
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