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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Ashmaele posted:

I ninja edited a typo in the post you quoted, "denying" should have read "allowing," sorry for the confusion!



NP, knew what you meant.

 

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Rosaria  2 stars
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Ashmaele posted:

Again, I will reiterate: I am not necessarily against allowing home schooled kids the ability to play public school sports. What I am against is giving home schooled kids preferential treatment with regard to public school sports. I am not sure I made that clear in previous posts but that is my position. And it certainly does appear as though the law Bonzo referred to does that to some extent.

How are they being given preferential treatment?

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Rosaria posted:

Ashmaele posted:

Again, I will reiterate: I am not necessarily against allowing home schooled kids the ability to play public school sports. What I am against is giving home schooled kids preferential treatment with regard to public school sports. I am not sure I made that clear in previous posts but that is my position. And it certainly does appear as though the law Bonzo referred to does that to some extent.

How are they being given preferential treatment?



By not being required to maintain a C average in all of their courses in order to participate in sports. If that burden is applied equally then I have no problem with homeschooled kids playing sports.

 

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Rosaria  2 stars
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Ptilk posted:

I'm pretty sure they never would have managed it without a LOT of help from their crazy assed mega-church.


Lot of really nice people are members of that scary place, and they pitched in a lot over the years, helping tutor and even teaching full courses.


A retired military computer dude and his wife taught my nephew for a couple of years in his early teens, and by the time he was 16, he knew more about coding and crap than most people who go to college then work in the field for years. He started college and was bored out of his mind, so he dropped out and started his own company. He did, of course, have to take a bunch of certification things just to prove he actually knew what he was doing.

I've read your other posts in this thread about your nephew and niece and it sounds like it worked out really well for them. There are several children near where I live that formed a home-school hub that provide support and education to each other's children. One of the kids was diagnosed with Asperger's and was routinely undereducated in the local school. This kid is now writing computer coding in his at-home elementary school, and uses the local college's library and computers for projects. He's included the home-schooling hub to work on social and communication skills, which includes his teaching computer technology to the other kids. I know there are failure stories out there, but what this one home-school hub has accomplished is amazing. I understand what you mean about the religious aspect, all of the families in this hub are Hindu and are very active in the Hindu temple.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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We can't have parents passing kids just so they can play sports, that right is reserved for district teachers.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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Two wrongs make a left, not a right.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Taliesihne posted:

Two wrongs make a left, not a right.



You are worried about fair play but star athletes are passed when they shouldn't be in schools, if they can't stop it in the schools why is it such a big deal to stop it in home schooling?

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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The schools at least have a method in place to deal with it. You have to actively subvert that method to pass failing students.

No such method exists for homeschoolers.

 

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Z-Elder  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
Sports in school is a large part of their school's community. If you do not go to the school you do not get to be part of that community.


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Ptilk  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
Of course it does.

There is no state that simply allows you to keep your kids at home and say, "I'm homeschooling them"...and lets it go at that. The easiest states to homeschool in (states that have the least requirements for it anyway) are Texas and Illinois....and even there, the County School Superintendent is required by law to investigate the manner in which the students are being taught and insure that the minimum number of classroom hours per year are being met.

I briefly home schooled my daughter while living in Chicago (we were waiting for admission to a private school the following year) and although the state did not attempt to dictate the course work, the exact same minimum hours in class, specified subjects to be taught, and minimum levels of student knowledge and accomplishment were enforced.

If you, or your child, failed to meet any of those restrictions and requirements.....you were in some pretty deep shit. It's against the law, and people get prosecuted for it every year, to falsify any reports on either progress or course study. In the 3 months that we home schooled, we were visited 3 or 4 times by dept. of education officials who required detailed information about all aspects of the home schooling.

And that's in the easiest state. My sisters state required her to purchase approved books and workbooks from a list, and required that those work books be examined by fully accredited teachers in the subject they were on and made the kids take quarterly and yearly tests. The exact same tests administered to public school kids. She also had to submit a monthly school calendar that listed their projected times in "class" and she was subject to spot checks at any time.

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