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Welfare is made to be a helping hand, not a career. [Locked] |
Ashmaele  Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Welfare is made to be a helping hand, not a career. |
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
paulg_68 posted:
After a short period of time it should become exceedingly unpleasant to receive welfare.
The problem is that it's not really all that unpleasant for a lot of people so they have no motive to get off the dole.
Yup.
Lose voting rights. Have to start doing mandatory volunteer/service work. Etc.
I think everyone who receives any type of public assistance should be REQUIRED to vote.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Welfare is made to be a helping hand, not a career. |
Phlegm573 posted:
The vast majority of disability claims are pure bs... Yeah sure, you got low back pain or you have anxiety. So do the rest of us. Deal with it or at least be more honest about your attempts to mooch off the system.
Blame doctors. The legal system - for good reason - relies on doctor's opinions to determine whether someone is really disabled or not. Because judges have no real clue. They arn't trained for it.
There would be no disability fraud if there weren't doctors out there happy to write something up saying the person is disabled. Almost no one ever gets disability without a doctor's opinion that they can't work.
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Bonzoboy1  Posts: 885
Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Welfare is made to be a helping hand, not a career. |
People who are paying for the welfare system have no faith in it after over 50 years of continual abuse. I think people on welfare should be tested for drugs and alcohol not because I have a problem with either but if they can afford to spend money on those they don't need welfare.
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__Bonk__  Posts: 5,122
Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Welfare is made to be a helping hand, not a career. |
Rosaria posted:
__Bonk__ posted:
My brother is on permanent diability and so is his girlfriend. They feel no urge to work at all. She is super smart and college educated and could do a part time office type job and he is pretty fit and could do a more manual job part time but neither of them want to work
Also they both walk a couple of miles every so often for exercise yet they both use disabled parking permits and take advantage of that.
They both also live in apartment complexes much nicer than mine and they pay nothing to live there. Its all paid by the government.
Once on disability unless you are kicked off it mean you are on it for life. There is very little incentive to get off of it. My brother doesnt want to work and support himself. If he did he would start to work part time.
I remembered you saying your brother's apartment was much nicer than yours and all of his living expenses are paid for for life. I don't get it.
It is nicer. Its in a newer apartment building, a low income retirement apartment complex what lets a few disabled people live there. The building is a security building and his apartment is about the same size as mine with better newer appliances.
To get this apartment he had to apply and wait for it. He was in a very bad apartment in ballard years ago.
His girlfriend lives in even a better apartment. The building is brand new and the apartment is even larger than mine with brand new appliances. She scored big
Unfortunately both are horders and their apartments are full of stuff/junk and my brother is too paranoid to open the blinds to let light in.
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theredkay1 Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Welfare is made to be a helping hand, not a career. |
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Im game for testing and anything else you want to throw at welfare recipients.....as soon as we propose the same thing for everyone else who benefits from public policy.
Everyone who directly benefits from trade policy (dr's, lawyers, pharma to name a few)...everyone who elects to take tax subsidies (mortgage interest, kids, healthcare etc)...everyone who benefits greatly from cheap gov't insurance (the financial industry)...everyone who reclassifies income as capital gains for the taxpayer handout...
Fraud enforcement for all of these gov't handouts should be stepped up.
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__Bonk__ Posts: 5,122
Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Welfare is made to be a helping hand, not a career. |
My brother and his girlfriend could both work part time jobs. People on disability need to do some sort of work any and it should be required.
Work is the best therapy. Is it fun? Hell no but you feel better about yourself when you are working
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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If you can work you arn't (totally) disabled.
Part of the problem is that once we find someone disabled we typically never really follow up.
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__Bonk__ Posts: 5,122
Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
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Welfare is made to be a helping hand, not a career. |
My brother worked part time when he was disabled. He didnt like it because he said the treated him badly so hes never worked again.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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If that's true he should be getting less money. If you can work at a job and choose not to typically the amount you could make is deducted from your disability check.
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
Posts: 985
Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Welfare is made to be a helping hand, not a career. |
welfare given voluntarily is called charity
welfare given by government is called thievery
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