you should get it for 6 months, but need a viable reason to be on it after that. Too many people are sitting back collecting assistance waiting for the "perfect job" to fall into their lap. That never happens.

I'm sick and tired of seeing people complain that life sucks because they are poor ( collecting welfare) but all they do is waste money on drugs, liquor and smokes.

Like.. hey assholes, when I put money in my CPP ( canadian pension plan)every pay, I know I'll be getting it back when I'm old. When I get taxes taken out of me going to welfare it's money that's contributing to nothing good and money I will never see again.

I'm now siding with PaulG on his idea that we should convince poor people to get fixed for 10k. Less failures we have, the better.

 

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It should be temporary

 

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After a short period of time it should become exceedingly unpleasant to receive welfare.

The problem is that it's not really all that unpleasant for a lot of people so they have no motive to get off the dole.

 

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I got help from the government for a short period of time. It was a life saver but then it ended

Thats how it should be.

 

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Yup.

Lose voting rights. Have to start doing mandatory volunteer/service work. Etc.

 

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You did what everyone on welfare should do : make an effort. You're doing good now and much you're much happier. If only we can show them that being independent is a much better feeling.

 

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There is no dole in America any more except for kids. Who you can't very well punish because of who their parents happen to be. Paul would probably say "take the kids away from the parent and then terminate their benefits" but taking kids away from their parents is never going to be very popular except among the asshole demographic.

There are no more welfare queens. Not like there used to be. There are people who basically spend their whole lives gaming the system using things like disability and UI but you don't have an open-ended right to welfare any more in this country.

Canananandia is probably different.

It is still generational sadly, in my neck of the woods.

My brother in law was a teacher at an inner city school and he once put his finances up on the chalk board to help his students see a way of life outside of what they were growing up in.

He said the kids said why would you pay all of that money when you can get those things for free.

This sort of thing needs to be better explained.

 

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...and child benefits/WIC. Which, between the three of them, has created a generation of welfare queens.

Believe it.

We all know some of them. We've covered it on this board before. And face it. Multiply it out. If we all know some of them, there are a shitload of them.

 

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If you have a kid as soon as you're 18 you can basically stay on the child benefits welfare train forever.

That's really the only welfare entitlement left. All the others are temporary things. If you really abuse the system you can get a similar effect to the old welfare dole but it isn't like you automatically get the check in the mail just because you asked like you used to.

The system is very much set up to not be a career now. People can still make a career out of defrauding the system but that's a different issue with different solutions.