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Yukishiro1 posted:
Not really. The other gods the mormons talk about are clearly inferior to yahweh too. So I think you are still reaching pretty far for a distinction that really doesn't matter.
Your "christians": some people worship other gods but they arn't anything near as good as Yahweh and you have to believe in Yahweh to be saved.
Mormons: There are other gods out there but they arn't as important as Yahweh and you have to worship Yahweh to be saved.
Eithne: OMG SO DIFFERENT!
No Christian believes in the existence of any God except Yahweh/Elohim/Jehovah/whatever name you want to call him by. It's not that we believe in the existence of other gods that are inferior; we do not believe that there are other gods. Monotheistic. Period.
Mormons believe in an infinite number of gods. The god of this world whom they call Heavenly Father, was once a man on another planet that achieved godhood by obedience to certain laws and ordinances. Because they believe we are his literal spirit children, it follows that we also have the same ability to achieve godhood, but because Heavenly Father is the god of this world, anybody who rose to that status would be on a different world by default. Heavenly Father was not the first god to exist and had gods before him. You'd be hard pressed to find a religion that was more polytheistic.
So yes, OMG DIFFERENT!
Yuki, I know you're an intelligent fellow, but it is really surprising how vague your understanding of these things is when you're arguing with me about how I don't understand Mormonism, let alone my own faith. The fact that you are so smug about it is troubling. 
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I don't think he's arguing that Mormon's aren't different. He's arguing that Mormon's position is coherent with the Torah.
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Remnant_OBrien posted:
I don't think he's arguing that Mormon's aren't different. He's arguing that Mormon's position is coherent with the Torah.
The Torah doesn't teach that there are many gods and that YHWH is the only one that should be worshiped...it teaches that there are no other gods besides YHWH period, and anyone who believes there are is deceived and an idolater.
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Kjarhall  Title: The Pungent One
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So we have a thread that started out praising a religious man for his good works, that degenerated into a bunch of "they can't be Christian!!" stupid.
And then they wonder why the religious get a bad rap. The irony is 
It's never been the religions that deserve their bad rap, it's always the people inside them that bring it on themselves.
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ineenia  Posts: 373
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Mormons are polytheistic Christianity is monotheistic.Mormons believe that everybody that has lead a good life will become a god himself.That is completely incompatible with Christianity's belief in the "One God".
Edit  OPs already covered.
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ZigmundZag  Title: Grammar Nazi
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ineenia posted:
Mormons are polytheistic Christianity is monotheistic.Mormons believe that everybody that has lead a good life will become a god himself.That is completely incompatible with Christianity's belief in the "One God".
Edit OPs already covered.
Negative. They still consider God to be the Almighty. It's incongruous, but no more so than saying 3 beings = 1 God, to be honest.
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ineenia Posts: 373
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ZigmundZag posted:
ineenia posted:
Mormons are polytheistic Christianity is monotheistic.Mormons believe that everybody that has lead a good life will become a god himself.That is completely incompatible with Christianity's belief in the "One God".
Edit OPs already covered.
Negative. They still consider God to be the Almighty. It's incongruous, but no more so than saying 3 beings = 1 God, to be honest.
He is one of many in the Mormon faith in Christianity there is only one.The trinity that you brought up is another example of the differences.In Christianity the Trinity is three aspects of the one god they are distinctly separate parts of one whole, in Mormonism they are a Godhead that are completely separate from each other in everything except purpose.Its a minor but significant difference.
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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True, and I've said before that the Mormon view of the Trinity is one of the few ecclesiastical differences that I can understand rejecting Mormonism as a Christian faith. However, trinitarianism isn't exactly new to Christianity, either, so it's a pretty flimsy excuse.
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_Enkidu_ Title: Zen Badger
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Love how people defending their take on religion refer to other people's takes on religion as "dumbed down."
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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Eithne_Boadicea posted:
The Torah doesn't teach that there are many gods and that YHWH is the only one that should be worshiped...it teaches that there are no other gods besides YHWH period, and anyone who believes there are is deceived and an idolater.
Except that it doesn't really. The torah clearly contemplates the existance of other supernatural beings. Whether you want to call them gods or spirits or something else seems like not that important a difference when you consider what the mormons call "gods" are clearly inferior to Yahweh and not to be worshipped.
And the text is not nearly as clear as you seem to think it is. Most of those passages are basically just God boastinga bout how awesome he is. If there weren't other competitors out there there wouldn't be a need to boast.
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