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eodoll  4 stars
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_Enkidu_ posted:

Love how people defending their take on religion refer to other people's takes on religion as "dumbed down."



People spend lifetimes studying this stuff.. There are emcyclopedias of terms and knowledge.

So while you might think its simple, its not. People have all the big questions and try to make sense of it.

And some people just enjoy studying the philosophy and politics of big movements like these religions..

So it can be dumbed down to a kindergarten level and be bumped up to a post graduate phd anthropologist level.
_Enkidu_  2 stars
Title: Zen Badger
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Registered: 2001-12-24 05:02:15
It's all made up so the only real study that you can do is the social effects of religion on society.


Arguing over what made up tidbit is true is laughable no matter how you dress it.

 

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Bobvillas  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-11-19 12:56:18
The Mormons said:

Yes, we are Christians. The formal name of our church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Maybe it might be appropriate to call us "New Testament Christians" as opposed to "Creedian Christians". This is based on the fact that we follow the teachings in the Bible - esp New Testament. And we reject the teachings from the various Creeds (Nicene, Athanasian, etc.) that are the basis for most religions that espouse to be Christians.

We believe in Jesus Christ. He is our Savior and Redeemer. He is the Mediator between us and God. He suffered and died for our sins. Only through Jesus can we be saved. We follow His teachings and take upon us His name. We are followers of Jesus Christ. We follow His example. We do everything we can to live a pure and Christlike life be it through obedience to His commandments and through service to our fellow man. We absolutely are Christians.

Here is a page to our basic beliefs called the 13 Articles of Faith: http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/a-of-f/1?lang=eng

Also - if you are really interested in more info about Mormons and our beliefs of being Christian - I would recommend the following: http://www.fairlds.org/apol/ai052.html


http://www.askamormon.com/Why-do-Mormons-consider-themselves-Christian.html

 

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Eithne_Boadicea  1 star
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Well shucks, if someone saying it makes it true, then I guess it must be! If Mormons think they're Christian, it doesn't matter what the rest of the Christians in the world think. By that logic you could call Branch Davidians (hi2u Waco) Christians, too, or Moonies, Aryan Nations (part of what is called the Christian Identity Movement) or Jehovah's Witnesses. Case closed. /slams gavel

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Or Catholics. Because those people are crazy too! And don't even get me started on protestants.


If you don't still celebrate mass in aramaic you clearly arn't a real christian.
Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
Or Koptic christians..

cry more guys Mormons have same right as you to call themsleves christian..

 

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eodoll  4 stars
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_City_(Jerusalem)

Catholics get an altar in the christian quarter but its controlled by greek orthodox. There are no protestants, lutheran, mormon, etc.. In the old city. And like i mentioned earIier, armenians which created the first christian church have their very own quarter.
Snarf_Igraine  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-12-13 14:36:34
They can call themselves apostles, disciples, Christians, believers, etc. It doesn't matter, it doesn't mean they really are.

Matthew 7 "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me you who practice lawlessness".
ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Posts: 1,211
Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
Snarf_Igraine posted:

They can call themselves apostles, disciples, Christians, believers, etc. It doesn't matter, it doesn't mean they really are.

Matthew 7 "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me you who practice lawlessness".

Sounds like it's up to the Big Guy to call it then.

It's pretty awesome that you're confident enough to make a judgement in his stead, though. Go you!

 

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Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
Nce ito see the tenacity amongst you Christians when it comes to being narrow minded bigots..

and you're all basically protestants who seems to forget that for a really long while you people were not considered Christians, you were heretics going against the catholic church.

If Mormons follow Jesus to any extent and call themselves Christians that makes them Christians, that you try to belittle them in this way just shows how backwards you religious people really are.

I personally think it's hillarious that Christians in this thread are basically going "nahaaa! they can't belong to our club!"

you people reason like children.. Then again having a imaginary friend is pretty childish.

 

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