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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head [Locked] |
DemonicXH  Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Ardenwolfe posted:
My God. You're in your own realm of stupid. I provide the manual that states exactly what you're arguing against. Jesus, this is like trying to reason with a bowl of Jell-O.
Have at it, Hoss. I'm done with your idiotic trolling.
The only idiot here is you.
Recommendations from retired police chiefs and organizations that mandate rules for their members are great, but they ARE NOT THE LAW IN FLORIDA.
Can you not grasp that simple concept? He did not break any laws by carrying his weapon with him. It's a simple fact that cannot be refuted. The police said it themselves and I know by my own experience with having a Florida concealed weapons permit.
Go back to ACF, you fit right in.
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DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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ineenia posted:
Are you guys really saying that if a guy with a gun is chasing you ,you run away and he chases after you ,you don't have every reason t fear for your life and use physical force to defend yourself?
If you shoot someone who is lawfully defending himself from yourself,it isn't self defense.
But again, the evidence at that time, the police did not have probable cause to arrest Zimmerman. Florida law states that the police can not arrest you if you claim self defense and there is no probable cause to rule otherwise.
We don't know all the facts, let the justice system do it's job.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Lots of stupid, dangerous things aren't illegal. I haven't said that his having a gun was illegal. I AM saying it is stupid and dangerous for a civilian to go into a "suspicious" situation with a gun. The Neighborhood Watch agrees with me, police departments all over the country agree with me, the police dispatcher he called agrees with me. What he did was stupid and dangerous and there is a 17 year old kid dead who wouldn't be if he had just done what he should have done...stayed in his vehicle until the police showed up.
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Rhapsedy Posts: 13
Registered: 2004-7-26 09:11:48
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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DemonicXH posted:
Seriously Ardenwolfe you are taking the rules of some Neighborhood Watch organization that's not involved as the law.
Do you wanna keep digging that hole deeper or quit while you're ahead?
How can you say that the neighborhood watch is not involved? It has been said over and over and over that he is the self-appointed captain also that he was appointed by the neighborhood watch as their captain. The rules that Arden posted are from the Florida neighborhood watch manual. The manual states he can not carry a lethal weapon.
If you say he is not involved with the neighborhood watch then he killed that child in cold blood. Zimmerman left his property to follow this child that was doing nothing and shot him. Yes you can have a Concealed Weapon Permit. But that does not give you the right to shoot any one in cold blood. It does not give you the right to follow a child around the street and shoot him.
If he is a citizen then yes he is allowed to have a weapon on him with a CPW. Still doesn't give him the right to shoot an unarmed child. Also if he is the acting Neighborhood watch Captain then he can not carry a weapon on him.
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Ardenwolfe  Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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Date Posted:
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DemonicXH posted:
The only idiot here is you.
Recommendations from retired police chiefs and organizations that mandate rules for their members are great, but they ARE NOT THE LAW IN FLORIDA.
Can you not grasp that simple concept? He did not break any laws by carrying his weapon with him. It's a simple fact that cannot be refuted. The police said it themselves and I know by my own experience with having a Florida concealed weapons permit.
Go back to ACF, you fit right in.
Again . . . choose. Is he acting as Watch Captain or is he acting as a citizen? You cannot have it both ways.
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DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
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Wow you ACFers are phucking stupid.
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Ardenwolfe Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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Date Posted:
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Choose or shut up.
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ineenia Posts: 373
Registered: 2005-11-1 04:48:33
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Date Posted:
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DemonicXH posted:
ineenia posted:
Are you guys really saying that if a guy with a gun is chasing you ,you run away and he chases after you ,you don't have every reason t fear for your life and use physical force to defend yourself?
If you shoot someone who is lawfully defending himself from yourself,it isn't self defense.
But again, the evidence at that time, the police did not have probable cause to arrest Zimmerman. Florida law states that the police can not arrest you if you claim self defense and there is no probable cause to rule otherwise.
We don't know all the facts, let the justice system do it's job.
They can arrest and hold people without charges for I think three days.
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DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Ardenwolfe posted:
Choose or shut up.
Dude you are flailing, it's kind of funny yet sad.
I entertained you and read all those links that you posted. Not one of them mentions any laws regarding carrying a weapon. Since you know, that breaking an actual Florida statute is a per-requisite for being arrested.
And I will say it again, just because the National Neighborhood Watch or whatever they call themselves has a set of rules, THEY ARE NOT THE LAWS OF FLORIDA.
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DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
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ineenia posted:
They can arrest and hold people without charges for I think three days.
With probable cause, which I would assume they didn't have otherwise they would have. According to Florida law if they were to arrest him and it were to be found out that he was immune from prosecution than they are opening themselves up for civil litigation.
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