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DemonicXH  Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Ardenwolfe posted:
And you realize that means . . . self-appointed, right?
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The February 2012 HOA newsletter requested that crime victims "call our captain, George Zimmerman" after calling the police.[13] Wendy Dorival, who organizes Neighborhood Watch for the Sanford Police Department, told the Sentinel in a recent interview that Zimmerman was chosen as a watch coordinator by his neighbors.[45]
Some residents of his gated townhouse community declared that Zimmerman was known for being strict and that he went door to door asking them to be on the lookout for "young black men who appear to be outsiders", while others regarded him as normal, helpful and passionate about neighborhood security, having supposedly thwarted a previous burglary attempt.[32] The community reportedly experienced numerous instances of burglary, theft, and one shooting during the previous year, with 402 calls made to the police."[32] According to the Miami Herald, Zimmerman had placed 46 of those calls since the beginning of 2011, "to report disturbances, break-ins, windows left open and other incidents; nine of those times, he saw someone or something suspicious".[32] Sanford police chief Bill Lee stated, "Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred."[46]
You want to keep going?
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Ardenwolfe  Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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Are you really this dense? You can't have it both ways. If you're saying he's neighborhood watch, they are not allowed to carry firearms. If you're saying he can carry a weapon, as a citizen, then he's a vigilante and not part of the watch program.
Choose.
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Yukishiro1  Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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SirGarth posted:
i'm no lawyer, but i'm pretty sure the "stand your ground" law doesn't allow you to start a fight with someone and shoot them when you're losing.
Which is why it all comes down to who started the fight. In the legal meaning of the question. Following some dude and even hurling racist slurs at him isn't enough according to the law to justify attacking someone.
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DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Ardenwolfe posted:
Are you really this dense? If can't have it both ways. If you're saying he's neighborhood watch, they are not allowed to carry firearms. If you're saying he can carry a weapon, as a citizen, then he's a vigilante and not part of the watch program.
Choose.
Show me where it says it is illegal to carry his weapon as neighborhood watch.
I won't hold my breath.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
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DemonicXH posted:
Ardenwolfe posted:
Are you really this dense? If can't have it both ways. If you're saying he's neighborhood watch, they are not allowed to carry firearms. If you're saying he can carry a weapon, as a citizen, then he's a vigilante and not part of the watch program.
Choose.
Show me where it says it is illegal to carry his weapon as neighborhood watch.
I won't hold my breath.
Didn't you know that when you are part of the neighborhood watch you loose all rights as an American Citizen.
It's in the manual bro
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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DemonicXH posted:
Ardenwolfe posted:
Are you really this dense? If can't have it both ways. If you're saying he's neighborhood watch, they are not allowed to carry firearms. If you're saying he can carry a weapon, as a citizen, then he's a vigilante and not part of the watch program.
Choose.
Show me where it says it is illegal to carry his weapon as neighborhood watch.
I won't hold my breath.
He was breaking the rules of Neighborhood Watch. Those rules are there for a reason...namely, that it is a VERY BAD idea for a civilian with a gun to inject himself into any kind of situation.
If he had followed the rules of Neighbor Watch, Martin would be alive. If he had listened to the police dispatcher, Martin would be alive. Martin was a 17 year old kid walking home from the store.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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There's no doubt Zimmerman is a racist douchebag idiot who went around following black people because they were black.
But that's sorta neither here nor there when it comes to whether it was self defense.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Groucho48 posted:
DemonicXH posted:
Ardenwolfe posted:
Are you really this dense? If can't have it both ways. If you're saying he's neighborhood watch, they are not allowed to carry firearms. If you're saying he can carry a weapon, as a citizen, then he's a vigilante and not part of the watch program.
Choose.
Show me where it says it is illegal to carry his weapon as neighborhood watch.
I won't hold my breath.
He was breaking the rules of Neighborhood Watch. Those rules are there for a reason...namely, that it is a VERY BAD idea for a civilian with a gun to inject himself into any kind of situation.
If he had followed the rules of Neighbor Watch, Martin would be alive. If he had listened to the police dispatcher, Martin would be alive. Martin was a 17 year old kid walking home from the store.
And we've already established that the dispatcher was giving a 'recommendation' not stating a law or giving any kind of lawful order or anything; and that 'Neighborhood Watch' rules are not in fact laws.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
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Yukishiro1 posted:
There's no doubt Zimmerman is a racist douchebag idiot who went around following black people because they were black.
But that's sorta neither here nor there when it comes to whether it was self defense.
If Martin felt threatened by a guy with a gun who gets out of an SUV to follow him, doesn't Stand Your Ground apply to any actions he might take?
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