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ineenia  2 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

Doesn't matter. He probably used a racial slur and that caused the kid to flip out and start attacking him. Doesn't matter. You dont' give up a self defense claim just because you were a racist douchebag and called someone a name first.

The important thing is who started the physical fight and whether the kid was really sitting on top of him punching him in the face repeatedly. In which case Zimmerman is a huge pussy in addition to being a huge douche. But not a murderer.



They have been saying on the News under Fl law that if you start or incite a fight you can not use self defense , as a defense in court.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Groucho48 posted:

reesescups posted:

What situation did Zimmerman put himself into? Wasn't he a guard? Isn't he suppose to put himself into situations?



No. He's not a guard.

Ah - thought I heard that he was.

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
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Not that I've heard, but the reports about Zimmerman's injuries are just coming to light as well. Even so, a gunshot wound to the chest resulting in the child's death is more than enough. Remember, Martin went to go get snacks for his little brother during a half-time break. I believe they were watching a basketball game.

 

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DemonicXH  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
Ardenwolfe posted:

Correct. We also know that his own neighborhood complained to the police about him. He was a self-appointed neighborhood watch captain or some nonsense like that.

Smells vigilante gone wrong to me.



The February 2012 HOA newsletter requested that crime victims "call our captain, George Zimmerman" after calling the police.[13] Wendy Dorival, who organizes Neighborhood Watch for the Sanford Police Department, told the Sentinel in a recent interview that Zimmerman was chosen as a watch coordinator by his neighbors.[45]


Do you consistently just make stuff up?
Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
ineenia posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

Doesn't matter. He probably used a racial slur and that caused the kid to flip out and start attacking him. Doesn't matter. You dont' give up a self defense claim just because you were a racist douchebag and called someone a name first.


The important thing is who started the physical fight and whether the kid was really sitting on top of him punching him in the face repeatedly. In which case Zimmerman is a huge pussy in addition to being a huge douche. But not a murderer.



They have been saying on the News under Fl law that if you start or incite a fight you can not use self defense , as a defense in court.



Incite has a specific legal meaning. It doesn't just mean you call someone a name as you're leaving the scene. Which is what zimmerman said. If that's true it was self-defense, as much as the guy is a racist douchebag.
reesescups  4 stars
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Allstarslacker posted:

The kid looked pretty athletic, and I'll go out on a limb and guess he was probably more familiar with physical confrontations than the want to be knight in shining armor.

I have no trouble believing he was beating that guy's ass.

At 17 you might be a boy mentally, but you're a man physically.

That and the first rule to getting your ass handed to you in any physical altercation is underestimating your foe due to size.


 

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DemonicXH  3 stars
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Groucho48 posted:

No. He's not a guard. He is a volunteer in an unofficial organization who disregarded instructions from the dispatcher to not follow martin but to wait for the police. He very definitely is NOT supposed to put himself in situations.



Lee told reporters that they could not arrest Zimmerman because no evidence contradicted his story, and that to do so would leave the police open to litigation.[84] He also said that although 911 did instruct Zimmerman not to pursue Martin, those instructions are only recommendations that do not carry the force of law.[16]
Ardenwolfe  2 stars
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reesescups posted:

Groucho48 posted:

reesescups posted:

What situation did Zimmerman put himself into? Wasn't he a guard? Isn't he suppose to put himself into situations?



No. He's not a guard.

Ah - thought I heard that he was.



Also, keep in mind, even if he was neighborhood watch, Florida Law prohibits you from carrying a firearm as a watch-person nor do you engage potential criminals.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Ardenwolfe posted:

reesescups posted:

Ah - thought I heard that he was.



Also, keep in mind, even if he was neighborhood watch, Florida Law prohibits you from carrying a firearm as a watch-person nor do you engage potential criminals.

Who are you and why are you talking to me?


Run along and let the adults handle the conversation...

 

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DemonicXH  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
Ardenwolfe posted:

Also, keep in mind, even if he was neighborhood watch, Florida Law prohibits you from carrying a firearm as a watch-person nor do you engage potential criminals.



Wrong again.


Sanford police chief Bill Lee stated, "Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred."[46]


Oh and I'll add that I currently have a CWP from the state of Florida and he was absolutely within his right to have it with him.

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