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DemonicXH  3 stars
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ineenia posted:

you're just babbling now because you don't want to be wrong,but you are wrong.In serious crimes they can hold people just for evidence collection.Which is a big part of the problem,the police didn't treat it seriously or even look at it as if a crime may have been committed...which is their job.



Another one.


Read up on the Stand Your Ground and Castle Doctrine laws in Florida. Then come back with a real argument.
Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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I'm just glad white people get a pass on this one, let the minorities duke it out we can pop a cold one and watch the race war.

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
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Sansfear posted:

The rules of the Neighborhood Watch do not override the rules of Florida. If he was a member of the Neighborhood Watch, maybe they will kick him out for violating their bylaws, but it still has no bearing on whether or not he broke the law.

A lot of businesses have rules against employees carrying weapons. There was a story recently (probably several of them) where a pizza delivery guy had been robbed and decided to carry a gun with him for protection even though it was against his company's policies.

Someone tried to rob him and he shot them in self-defense. And while the company fired him for having a gun, he wasn't charged with any crime by the police.



This is absolutely true. That's not the argument. The argument is that if he is in fact Neighborhood Watch, and acting as their captain, he doesn't have the right, within the rules of his own organization, to carry a firearm. According to the rule he is supposedly following and upholding.

But we know, from the organization disavowing him, that's not the case. He is acting as a private citizen with a legal weapon. And yes, he has the right to carry a firearm. Again, that's not in question.

The question is: does he have a right to carry a firearm under the guise of Neighborhood Watch?

The answer is an emphatic no. All the organization officials have stated this repeatedly. So, as a private citizen, trying to guise himself under the banner of the Neighborhood Watch, he stalked this child down without legal right to do so.

Just because you have the legal right to carry a firearm does not give you the right to shoot someone under the disguise of 'The Neighborhood Watch' program.

A person who seeks out 'criminals' and shoots them without legal right is a vigilante. Zimmerman wanted to play Punisher. And now, he should pay the price.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Bonzoboy1 posted:

I'm just glad white people get a pass on this one, let the minorities duke it out we can pop a cold one and watch the race war.



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reesescups  4 stars
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Ardenwolfe posted:

But we know, from the organization disavowing him, that's not the case.

Are you like - full on retard or just like one of those semi functional retards?

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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SirGarth posted:

i'm no lawyer, but i'm pretty sure the "stand your ground" law doesn't allow you to start a fight with someone and shoot them when you're losing.





The guy who wrote the Florida law said on Dateline last night that in his opinion the law does not apply in this case.

 

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So basically reesescups has nothing. . . not even brains. Check.

 

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Bowlartz  1 star
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It is also coming out now that there were a rash of break ins (confirmed by police) in the days just before the shooting right in the area of the shooting. While Zimmerman still should have kept his distance he was well with in his rights to keep an eye on someone that doesn't belong in the neighborhood in light of the recent break ins...that is what a neighborhood watch does.

The witness who described Zimmerman lying on the ground crying for help before the shooting is a 13 year old from the neighborhood.

It is also not helping that one of Zimmerman's friends who is now doing interviews for everyone that will have him is black and says categorically that the guy doesn't have a racist bone in his body. I am sure he will be called an Uncle Tom any day now.

The entire situation is tragic and involves some poor choices on both parties but he isn't going to jail.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Even though Zimmerman did something wrong morally I think he is going to get a pass legally.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Bowlartz posted:

It is also coming out now that there were a rash of break ins (confirmed by police) in the days just before the shooting right in the area of the shooting. While Zimmerman still should have kept his distance he was well with in his rights to keep an eye on someone that doesn't belong in the neighborhood in light of the recent break ins...that is what a neighborhood watch does.

Are you suggesting that all Zimmerman did was "keep an eye on him?" He called the cops, the dispatcher told him plainly not to follow the kid, and he did it anyway.

 

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