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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head [Locked] |
DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Kjarhall posted:
cabbyman posted:
Kjarhall posted:
Zimmerman sounds like the witchy old lady every neighborhood has, that calls the cops about little thing they don't like.
Seriously, you call 911 about most of the things on that list?
Doesn't really matter what I would do but he sounds like a pretty conscientious neighborhood watch guy.
He sounds like one of those co-op boards that gets on your ass about every little thing. I wonder if the cops responded to all those 911 calls or whether he was one of those guys cops roll their eyes at and say "Oh jeez, we got another call from rent-a-cop, i wonder what he's gonna waste our time with today?"
Except he was calling the non-emergency line, but he does sound like one of those annoying neighbors. The flip side to that is if I had someone sort of like this in my old neighborhood then my house wouldn't have been robbed.
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Ardenwolfe Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Let's remove the racial slur and even say it didn't happen. "They always get away," is clear to all. Obviously, Martin didn't get away. Again, it gives us some insight into Zimmerman's mindset. Even after the dispatcher advised, if we can use that term, Zimmerman not to engage, he did so anyway.
He wasn't going to let this one get away. And he didn't. So here we are.
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DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Ardenwolfe posted:
Let's remove the racial slur and even say it didn't happen. "They always get away," is clear to all. Obviously, Martin didn't get away. Again, it gives us some insight into Zimmerman's mindset. Even after the dispatcher advised, if we can use that term, Zimmerman not to engage, he did so anyway.
He wasn't going to let this one get away. And he didn't. So here we are.
It's clear to you, but your bias towards this story is well known, for the rest of us that are waiting until the grand jury convenes, nothing is set in stone until they either proceed with charges against Zimmerman or he's cleared.
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Ardenwolfe Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
As is your bias. Your point? The problem is Zimmerman is saying nothing of merit. If he has a broken nose and was assaulted, where are the pictures? Where's the medical report. And yes, I would love to see this before the grand jury or a trial.
Again, the problem is even that has failed to happen. It's still under 'investigation' which is nonsense.
Let's be real about this issue. If an Arab man shot and killed a 17-year old blonde, white girl in this manner, he'd be literally under the prison by now. It's the hypocrisy of the law enforcement agents that irks people about this case.
And yes, I freely admit, this includes me as well.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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cabbyman posted:
Zimmerman is the neighborhood watch guy. He is SUPPOSED to call the cops when he sees something out of the ordinary in his neighborhood. You'll notice those calls are over an EIGHT YEAR PERIOD. If Martin had called the cops on Zimmerman he'd still be alive.
Not all of those calls were made in the line of neighborhood watch duty ("Can someone send the police to my house? My landlord is trying to collect rent!!"  and he hasn't been living in that neighborhood for eight years, nor is there any conclusive evidence that he's been a neighborhood watch guy for eight years.
cabbyman posted:
As for the second point all we have is Zimmerman's version of the story and some eyewitnesses that say they saw Martin on top beating the hell out of Zimmerman who was screaming for help. Other than that, you're right, we got nothing.
I never said otherwise. I merely stated that we don't know for sure that Martin attacked Zimmerman. Well, you seem to know. But the rest of the world will likely have to wait for more evidence.
cabbyman posted:
Is this why the "Stand you ground" law was put into effect? Yup. You should be able to defend yourself against great bodily harm or death.
This is only true if he was attacked first. His own attorney has stated that the stand your ground law does not and should not apply here. Even the FL state senator who wrote the law said he does not believe it applies in this case. So there's that to consider.
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Grymlo Posts: 415
Registered: 2002-4-30 05:51:06
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:09am
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Ardenwolfe posted:
Bonzoboy1 posted:
Is there any proof that Zimerman was hurling racial insults or blocking Martins path or is this just something the mob is running with?
We have no knowledge about the exact words either party used prior to Martin's death barring an unspoken witness. What is know is Zimmerman's mindset before he met Martin because of the 911 call.
"F---ing coons. They always get away," or words to that effect. That's why the 'mob' is irked. It gives them Zimmerman's mentality beforehand. The result? Martin, unarmed, is dead.
It's not a leap of faith to believe racism helped spur this entire fiasco.
A lot of people believe he is saying "F---ing goons..."
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DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Ardenwolfe posted:
As is your bias. Your point? The problem is Zimmerman is saying nothing of merit. If he has a broken nose and was assaulted, where are the pictures? Where's the medical report. And yes, I would love to see this before the grand jury or a trial.
Again, the problem is even that has failed to happen. It's still under 'investigation' which is nonsense.
Let's be real about this issue. If an Arab man shot and killed a 17-year old blond, white girl in this manner, he'd be literally under the prison by now. It's the hypocrisy of the law enforcement agents there is what irks people about this case.
And yes, I freely admit, this includes me as well.
I am curious as to where his and Martin's medical reports are. If the confrontation happened how Zimmerman claims it happened then Martin would have some sort of injuries to him as well.
Again you can throw out as many hypothetical situations as you want and claim there is hypocrisy in law enforcement. The truth is, the DA's office did not believe there was enough evidence at the time to pursue arrest. As I and other people have mentioned in this very thread, the entire state of Florida is weary about pressing charges against someone who claims self defense unless there is probable cause to believe it wasn't. If they do and he is acquitted then they are subject to civil lawsuits and in a case with such exposure as this one, the accused could walk away with millions of dollars.
The lead investigator thought that he should have been charged with manslaughter but the prosecutors disagreed with him so either they want to build a case against him or they know something we don't.
My bias is against the media railroading this guy before the truth is even known and creating a 'lynch mob' mentality when no one knows exactly what happened that night.
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
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Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
DemonicXH posted:
Ardenwolfe posted:
Let's remove the racial slur and even say it didn't happen. "They always get away," is clear to all. Obviously, Martin didn't get away. Again, it gives us some insight into Zimmerman's mindset. Even after the dispatcher advised, if we can use that term, Zimmerman not to engage, he did so anyway.
He wasn't going to let this one get away. And he didn't. So here we are.
It's clear to you, but your bias towards this story is well known, for the rest of us that are waiting until the grand jury convenes, nothing is set in stone until they either proceed with charges against Zimmerman or he's cleared.
What's sad here is that you actually believe that he shows bias and that you have been open minded. Lie to yourself if you must but if you lie to us you should really do a better job.
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Grymlo posted:
Ardenwolfe posted:
Bonzoboy1 posted:
Is there any proof that Zimerman was hurling racial insults or blocking Martins path or is this just something the mob is running with?
We have no knowledge about the exact words either party used prior to Martin's death barring an unspoken witness. What is know is Zimmerman's mindset before he met Martin because of the 911 call.
"F---ing coons. They always get away," or words to that effect. That's why the 'mob' is irked. It gives them Zimmerman's mentality beforehand. The result? Martin, unarmed, is dead.
It's not a leap of faith to believe racism helped spur this entire fiasco.
A lot of people believe he is saying "F---ing goons..."
I already said that he probably tripped over a racoon that got away. This was just before he ran into a nest of tick like bugs.
Damn chiggers!, he was heard to say.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:09am
Subject:
Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Grymlo posted:
Ardenwolfe posted:
Bonzoboy1 posted:
Is there any proof that Zimerman was hurling racial insults or blocking Martins path or is this just something the mob is running with?
We have no knowledge about the exact words either party used prior to Martin's death barring an unspoken witness. What is know is Zimmerman's mindset before he met Martin because of the 911 call.
"F---ing coons. They always get away," or words to that effect. That's why the 'mob' is irked. It gives them Zimmerman's mentality beforehand. The result? Martin, unarmed, is dead.
It's not a leap of faith to believe racism helped spur this entire fiasco.
A lot of people believe he is saying "F---ing goons..."
I've listened to that recording several times and I can't make it out. IMHO people are hearing what they want to hear there, whatever they hear. It's inaudible.
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