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Tych2  4 stars
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Kjarhall posted:

Seriously, you call 911 about most of the things on that list?

I wouldn't, but then I am not a neighborhood watch guy. I don't know what they are supposed to do, but it seems like one of the things people say he is supposed to do is let me find the quote...


eodoll posted:

by the way.. neighborhood watch.. not patrol, not guard. everyone knows neighborhood watch means observe and report only.

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
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What's repulsive is that an adult shot and murdered an unarmed child, hasn't been charged or arrested, and there are people defending the murderer. That's truly repulsive.

 

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Z-Elder  3 stars
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Some of us, like the DA, are just looking at the facts so far.

 

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Ardenwolfe posted:

What's repulsive is that an adult shot and murdered an unarmed child, hasn't been charged or arrested, and there are people defending the murderer. That's truly repulsive.



Ahhh, the sounds of a lynch mob charging with torches and pitchforks, led by the nose by the media and leading the way before the trial has even begun.


Ardenwolfe posted:

child



A 6'3" dude is now a "child". Yet more media-style manipulations.

 

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vn_nnanji  4 stars
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cabbyman posted:

vn_nnanji posted:

Each side is only paying attention to the "facts" that support their view.

It is now a full fledged circus. This is easy.

Arrest Zimmerman and do a full investigation and if warranted a trial. Did he shoot in self defense? Maybe, I don't think so but maybe. He sure wasn't standing his ground though. I don't see how you can follow and confront someone and then claim you were standing your ground.



His ground standing came when he was attacked, knocked down, and his head was repeatedly slammed into the pavement.

Nothing before that was illegal. Again this all assumes that Martin attacked him first.



It assumes a lot more than that. It also ignores all the evidence that Zimmerman wanted and looked for a confrontation. Like I said people are pointing to the "facts" they like and ignoring the rest.

You keep pointing to the witnesses who claim to have seen Zimmerman getting his butt whooped but seem unconcerened that these same eyewitnesses didn't see the beginnig of the fight or the shooting at the end. Don't you find that odd?

Or how about the witnesses we've seen on TV telling a different story? No....you are all about him getting his head slammed into the ground and only in the last few posts admit you don't have even close to the whole story. I'm not going to pretend to be totally open minded either but at least I am not cherry picking what I consider relevant while ignoring gaping holes in the "facts."

 

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Sinlock posted:

A 6'3" dude is now a "child". Yet more media-style manipulations.



Are you serious? Even if he was 7-feet tall, he's under 18-years old. That's a minor according to the law. And, as someone has pointed out earlier, we've seen 12-14-year olds who were six-feet tall. Since when does height determine maturity or age?

Quit being a fool.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Is there any proof that Zimerman was hurling racial insults or blocking Martins path or is this just something the mob is running with?

 

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Kjarhall  3 stars
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cabbyman posted:

Kjarhall posted:

Zimmerman sounds like the witchy old lady every neighborhood has, that calls the cops about little thing they don't like.

Seriously, you call 911 about most of the things on that list?



Doesn't really matter what I would do but he sounds like a pretty conscientious neighborhood watch guy.



He sounds like one of those co-op boards that gets on your ass about every little thing. I wonder if the cops responded to all those 911 calls or whether he was one of those guys cops roll their eyes at and say "Oh jeez, we got another call from rent-a-cop, i wonder what he's gonna waste our time with today?"

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
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Bonzoboy1 posted:

Is there any proof that Zimerman was hurling racial insults or blocking Martins path or is this just something the mob is running with?



We have no knowledge about the exact words either party used prior to Martin's death barring an unspoken witness. What is know is Zimmerman's mindset before he met Martin because of the 911 call.

"F---ing coons. They always get away," or words to that effect. That's why the 'mob' is irked. It gives them Zimmerman's mentality beforehand. The result? Martin, unarmed, is dead.

It's not a leap of faith to believe racism helped spur this entire fiasco.

 

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Bonzoboy1 posted:

Is there any proof that Zimerman was hurling racial insults or blocking Martins path or is this just something the mob is running with?



There isn't.

CNN said they enhanced the audio of that tape and had a few different staff listen to it and they couldn't make out any racial epitaphs.

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