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eodoll  Posts: 1,028
Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
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whatever.. youre protecting zimmermans right to patrol the streets and gun down a kid.
ill never take your side unless that kid is truly a menace (brandishing a gun, putting others in real danger, etc..).
as far as im concerned - 2nd degree man slaughtet committed during an assault. attempted kidnapping. brandishing a firearm. assault with a loaded weapon.
are the appropriate charges here.
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Ardenwolfe  Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
Posts: 499
Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
You know, just for the sake of asking, what hospital did Zimmerman go to after his nose was supposedly broken and he was battered. I'm not hearing anything about this. There's not even photos of his injuries.
Can anyone actually confirm this story?
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Groucho48  Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
cabbyman posted:
Ashmaele posted:
cabbyman posted:
Ashmaele posted:
Again, according to the shooter. You keep acting like Zimmerman's version of events constitute fact.
Witnesses corroborate at least parts of Zimmerman's story. That's all we have.
We can play make believe all day long if you want.
Well, I posted a link which indicates that the investigating officer didn't believe Zimmerman's version of events and was ready to charge him with manslaughter.
Or we can play make believe if you want.
I've seen that. I've also seen the link that the DA refused to press charges on the grounds that there wasn't enough evidence to show Zimmerman committed a crime.
So there it is.
Because of Florida's stupid Stand Your Ground law, which says Florida can be sued for all costs plus penalties if they press charges and lose the case, and, that anyone with a gun who feels threatened is allowed to use deadly force, even if they were the instigators; prosecutors are very reluctant to press charges.
Basically, you can shoot anyone you want as long as you can reasonably say you were feeling threatened.
Martin was a 17 year old kid who was walking home with an iced tea and a bag of skittles. If Zimmerman had shown ANY kind of judgement or ability to follow guidelines, Martin would be alive.
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
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Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:08am
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Each side is only paying attention to the "facts" that support their view.
It is now a full fledged circus. This is easy.
Arrest Zimmerman and do a full investigation and if warranted a trial. Did he shoot in self defense? Maybe, I don't think so but maybe. He sure wasn't standing his ground though. I don't see how you can follow and confront someone and then claim you were standing your ground.
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 885
Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29
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Date Posted:
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People seem to have trouble understanding that Zimmerman did nothing illegal follow Martin, and the only legal response Trayvon had was to call the police.
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cabbyman Posts: 441
Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
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Bonzo is correct here.
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cabbyman Posts: 441
Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
vn_nnanji posted:
Each side is only paying attention to the "facts" that support their view.
It is now a full fledged circus. This is easy.
Arrest Zimmerman and do a full investigation and if warranted a trial. Did he shoot in self defense? Maybe, I don't think so but maybe. He sure wasn't standing his ground though. I don't see how you can follow and confront someone and then claim you were standing your ground.
His ground standing came when he was attacked, knocked down, and his head was repeatedly slammed into the pavement.
Nothing before that was illegal. Again this all assumes that Martin attacked him first.
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cabbyman Posts: 441
Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
eodoll posted:
whatever.. youre protecting zimmermans right to patrol the streets and gun down a kid.
ill never take your side unless that kid is truly a menace (brandishing a gun, putting others in real danger, etc..).
as far as im concerned - 2nd degree man slaughtet committed during an assault. attempted kidnapping. brandishing a firearm. assault with a loaded weapon.
are the appropriate charges here.
I understand that you think this is what should happen but that's not what the law says.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:08am
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
eodoll posted:
so youre saying you can call someone names, follow them with a loaded weapon abd intimidate them but the other person has no right to stand his ground?
Are you serious? Calling someone names is one of the things that does it for you? You don't attack them. You call the police.
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Koneg Title: Evil Genius
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:08am
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
eodoll posted:
ok, then explain the law in this scenario:
i make it obvious ive got a gun under my coat
i block your path
you tell me to move
i insult you and keep blocking your path - i dont lay a finger on you
your only option is?
Pull out my cell phone and call a cop. You've broken two laws minimum - brandishing and assault, and a "man with a gun" call gets the fastest response possible out of police.
I can stand there and be insulted by you all day long without feeling compelled to throw a punch... because I know you have a frikken gun and I, presumably, do not. See sig. 
eodoll posted:
ive pretty much started a fight here...
No you haven't - you haven't laid a finger on anyone. You're just being an ass. 
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