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Ashmaele  Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Bowlartz posted:
"Zimmerman said that Martin followed him back to his truck, punched him in the mouf, knocked him down to the ground and then climbed on top and started beating him. For Zimmerman's account to be true, they would have been fighting in the street next to Zimmerman's truck."
I have not read where Zimmerman claimed he followed him all the way back to his truck. I have seen him claim that he lost sight of Martin and decided to head back to his truck with the intent of meeting the police who were on their way.
Orlando Sentinel posted:
With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk, leaving him bloody and battered, law-enforcement authorities told the Orlando Sentinel.
That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say. There have been no reports that a witness saw the initial punch Zimmerman told police about.
Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened Feb. 26. But that night, and in later meetings, he described and re-enacted for police what he says took place.
In his version of events, Zimmerman had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words and then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.
I will concede that this is a fair point.
However, this raises even more questions imo. For example, why did Martin go from walking fast/running away from Zimmerman to suddenly becoming the aggressor once Zimmerman decided to "walk back to his SUV?" Does it really make sense that he would do that given that (according to his girlfriend) he was actually afraid of Zimmerman? Also, if he attacked Zimmerman from behind, how was it that he was able to send him to the ground by punching him in the nose? Did he run really fast all the way around to Zimmerman to the point that he was facing him and then punch him in the nose?
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Bowlartz posted:
Orwyn_Blackheart posted:
Bowlartz posted:
The reason for mentioning Trayvon's Facebook and social media accounts that have been deleted by his family/attorney is that it presents a very different view over the pictures of an 11 and 12 year old Trayvon splashed all over the media. The pictures he posted show a very different persona that includes the drug dealing going on in his Facebook conversations.
Something else that doesn't help is this:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/trayvon-martin-family-looks-trademark-am-trayvon-justice-142131528.html
"Trayvon Martin's mother Sybrina Fulton is seeking to trademark phrases with her son's name.
According to applications filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office by the family's attorney last week, Fulton wants to trademark "I am Trayvon" and "Justice for Trayvon" for use in DVDs and CDs memorializing the slain teenager."
More than enough reason to keep driving the Trayvon gravy train all through the more than willing media outlets.
Where is the proof he was drug dealing? Or are you just content to attack a dead boy?
http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer
Most of that link is the same kind of jumping to conclusions BS that supporters of Trayvon are doing but it does include snapshots of Trayvon's now deleted Facebook page which is where references to providing weed are clear.
Has it been confirmed whether that was actually the real Trayvon Martin's FB page or the page belonging to the other Trayvon Martin whose picture appeared in paulg's thread yesterday?
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Bowlartz posted:
http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer
Most of that link is the same kind of jumping to conclusions BS that supporters of Trayvon are doing but it does include snapshots of Trayvon's now deleted Facebook page which is where references to providing weed are clear.
Weed is not a drug - it's a plant!!!
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Z-Elder  Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
I repeat, If John comes to court and say this again, I vote not guilty. You guys have to give us something to show Zimmerman caused this. And don't give me the dispatcher said he didn't need to follow him. If one of my guards told me that he didn't follow a guy on our property I'd tell him he was fired.
According to Tampa Bay Fox affiliate WTVT-TV, “John†said:
“The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: ‘help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911.
“When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point."
The Tampa Bay Fox report states that Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red, and that his statements to police were instrumental because police backed up Zimmerman’s claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman."
How can you idiots overlook a witness that was talking to Martin while he was beating on Zimmerman. He even told Martin to stop!
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Ardenwolfe  Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Ashmaele posted:
Has it been confirmed whether that was actually the real Trayvon Martin's FB page or the page belonging to the other Trayvon Martin whose picture appeared in paulg's thread yesterday?
Reports are coming in that it's not the same guy. Most bloggers and media that used the picture are now reporting it came from an incorrect source (Stormfront). Trayvon's actual facebook page was Trayvon Slimm Martin. As we now know, that page has been removed.
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Bowlartz  Title: Offical VN Tin Foil Hat Supplier
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Ashmaele posted:
However, this raises even more questions imo. For example, why did Martin go from walking fast/running away from Zimmerman to suddenly becoming the aggressor once Zimmerman decided to "walk back to his SUV?" Does it really make sense that he would do that given that (according to his girlfriend) he was actually afraid of Zimmerman? Also, if he attacked Zimmerman from behind, how was it that he was able to send him to the ground by punching him in the nose? Did he run really fast all the way around to Zimmerman to the point that he was facing him and then punch him in the nose?
I would think that Martin knew someone was watching/following him and got a bit spooked but when Zimmerman got closer giving Trayvon a better lookhe decided..."I can take that fat idiot". And the quote from the police report says that he approached Zimmerman from the back and that the two started having words...I assume meaning face to face by then at which point Trayvon, according to Zimmerman, punched him breaking his nose and proceeding to start smashing his head into the sidewalk.
All of this is Zimmerman's side of the story but the witness accounts seem to back it up. The most damning being the person who states Zimmerman was getting his ass kicked and was screaming "Help". This witness called 911 to report it.
Zimmerman should not have placed himself in danger in the first place and Treyvon could have headed home when he ran away. Both made unfortunate choices and a 17 year old is dead now.
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cabbyman Posts: 441
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FREE MARTIN!!!
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Z-Elder posted:
How can you idiots overlook a witness that was talking to Martin while he was beating on Zimmerman. He even told Martin to stop!
Who said anyone is overlooking this? i think it's pretty clear that there was a scuffle of some sort. That doesn't justify a shooting IMO in this case.
I asked this in another thread but I never got a response so I'll ask here: Say you see someone walking down the street and you decide you want to wrestle him. Unbeknownst to you, the guy you engage is really good at wrestling and, before long, you find yourself pinned and in trouble. So you decide to shoot the guy rather than letting him break your neck. Is that self defense in your opinion?
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cabbyman Posts: 441
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Leave your fantasies out of this discussion.
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Date Posted:
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When someone runs up behind you, you turn to face them, dont you?
Or do you just keep walking away like nothing is happening with you back turned?
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