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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Ashmaele posted:

sweeny_comodore posted:

When someone runs up behind you, you turn to face them, dont you?
Or do you just keep walking away like nothing is happening with you back turned?



Meh, I suppose.

Then you have to wonder why Martin would "run up behind" Zimmerman to ask Zimmerman why he was following him lol



Because the kid was a thug who wanted to pinch him like a bus driver.


No one has answered my question about why this is an outrage but a seventeen yo kid with a pellet gun getting mowed down after a twenty min standoff is a job well done?
What makes one seventeen year old thugs lfe more valuable than the other?

 

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Durkall
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Registered: 2009-11-2 13:20:51
sweeny_comodore posted:

How come the same people against this shooting were the same ones cheering the death of a white kid at the hands of thirty cops who forgot how to use pepper spray and tazers?

Is it because this kid is black and you feel compelled by white guilt to take his side?
or is it because the shooter is brown?



First off, your statement is absurd, but then you have to cross that reality line if you are trying to defend the shooting death of a kid just walking home from the store.

Was Trayvon an angel, probably not. Is Zimmerman a racist, probably not. Did Zimmerman pursue a course of action that lead to Trayvon's needless death for being suspicious? Yes. Did Zimmerman enter the situation with the intent to shoot Trayvon, probably not (I would say no). Does Zimmerman deserve to be punished by our legal system, yes.
sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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The kid was nowhere near home.

And you're just an ignorant racist who's trying his damndest to prove how unracist you are by jumping on the anti white bandwagon.

Youre assuming, despite the whitnessrs and evidence, that this thug is completely innocent.
Youre assuming, based on media smear tactics, that the white guy instigated the attack.

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-11-21 11:55:52
The guy with the gun killed the guy without the gun. Kinda cut and dried there.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
sweeny_comodore posted:

The kid was nowhere near home.



Completely irrelevant.


sweeny_comodore posted:

And you're just an ignorant racist who's trying his damndest to prove how unracist you are by jumping on the anti white bandwagon.



wat?


sweeny_comodore posted:

Youre assuming, despite the whitnessrs and evidence, that this thug is completely innocent.



There are neither witnesses nor evidence that indicate this kid was behaving as a "thug." Well, other than the word of the guy who killed him I mean.


sweeny_comodore posted:

Youre assuming, based on media smear tactics, that the white guy instigated the attack.



Wat white guy?

And it is pretty clear that but for Zimmerman following this kid there never would have been an "attack."

 

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Groucho48  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
Z-Elder posted:

Zimmerman was an authorized watchman for the HOA on their Private Property. He was doing his duty by following an unknown person until that person went inside a home or left the property through the other gate.



If he was acting as a neighborhood watch, he broke every rule in the book. He wasn't supposed to have a gun and he wasn't supposed to follow people. He wasn't doing his duty. His duty was to notify police about suspicious people or activities. Period.

Early on, while he was in his SUV, Martin apparently walked right by him. Why didn't he just roll down his window, identify himself as the watchman and ask Martin what he was doing? If he had done something sensible and within his job description like that, Martin would be alive Instead, he stalked the guy, despite instructions not to. Result...one dead innocent teen-ager. Which is why both neighborhood watch guidelines and police guidelines say...don't follow a suspect and don't be armed. Because that's just asking for something really bad and totally avoidable to happen.

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
sweeny_comodore posted:

The kid was nowhere near home.

And you're just an ignorant racist who's trying his damndest to prove how unracist you are by jumping on the anti white bandwagon.

Youre assuming, despite the whitnessrs and evidence, that this thug is completely innocent.
Youre assuming, based on media smear tactics, that the white guy instigated the attack.



Um . . . we know that Martin was going to the house where his father lived. He stepped out to get snacks for himself and his little brother during a halftime break. So, yes, he was near home. In fact, if that previous map is correct . . . he was a mere block or so away from home.

I like how you call the 17-year old murdered victim a thug because it shows your bias. No one is saying Martin is completely innocent, yet you seem to believe Zimmerman is.

We know Zimmerman instigated it. After the dispatcher said to Zimmerman, "We don't need you to follow him," or words to that effect, he did it anyway. Martin's body was behind the road and houses on a sidewalk or lawn. Zimmerman had to get out of his vehicle to encounter Martin in that area. What happened from there is still questionable and requires an investigation.

People want an investigation and trial because an unarmed child is dead. I don't think that's to much to ask. So far . . . Zimmerman isn't even in custody. That's the big problem people have this this case.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
And if he hadn't followed him, there may have been another robbery..
As nightwatchman, its kind of his job to watch or follow people who are inside the gates of this private community when they dont belong there.

Did the kid live there?
If not, then he didnt belong there and was suspicious, regardless of what color the kid or man are.

You are the one applying racism to the situation.

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
sweeny_comodore posted:

And if he hadn't followed him, there may have been another robbery..
As nightwatchman, its kind of his job to watch or follow people who are inside the gates of this private community when they dont belong there.

Did the kid live there?
If not, then he didnt belong there and was suspicious, regardless of what color the kid or man are.

You are the one applying racism to the situation.



We're not playing hypothetical 'may have been's. Martin is dead. You can't shoot someone on the presumption that they may commit a crime. Yes, it's was Zimmerman's job to watch. But, it is not his job to follow, interrogate, and eventually kill the person in question.

And yes, I told you he lived there . . . with his father and little brother. . . .

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
sweeny_comodore posted:

Did the kid live there?



Yes, at least he was staying there.

 

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