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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head [Locked] |
Ashmaele  Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
4f71c55be4b00809b7 posted:
Ashmaele posted:
Bowlartz posted:
It is also coming out now that there were a rash of break ins (confirmed by police) in the days just before the shooting right in the area of the shooting. While Zimmerman still should have kept his distance he was well with in his rights to keep an eye on someone that doesn't belong in the neighborhood in light of the recent break ins...that is what a neighborhood watch does.
Are you suggesting that all Zimmerman did was "keep an eye on him?" He called the cops, the dispatcher told him plainly not to follow the kid, and he did it anyway.
OPERATOR: Are you following him?
ZIMMERMAN: Yeah.
OPERATOR: OK. We don't need you to do that.
ZIMMERMAN: OK.
What?? did you not hear the tape or read the transcripts?
OPERATOR: OK. We don't need you to do that.
ZIMMERMAN: OK.
What about him saying OK do you not understand?
I understand him saying "Ok." I don't understand him continuing to follow the kid after saying "ok." Ok?
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Vydor  Posts: 248
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Ashmaele posted:
I understand him saying "Ok." I don't understand him continuing to follow the kid after saying "ok." Ok?
Ash, what leads you to believe he did not stop following the kid. From the transcripts I've read, after he told the dispatcher OK, there was no more talk about Travyon or that Zimmerman continued to follow him. It appeared to me, after that Zimmerman and the dispatcher started discussing a place to meet up with the police. I may have missed something though.
Here is the transcript I read.
http://www.examiner.com/node/44935596
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GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Vydor posted:
Ashmaele posted:
I understand him saying "Ok." I don't understand him continuing to follow the kid after saying "ok." Ok?
Ash, what leads you to believe he did not stop following the kid. From the transcripts I've read, after he told the dispatcher OK, there was no more talk about Travyon or that Zimmerman continued to follow him. It appeared to me, after that Zimmerman and the dispatcher started discussing a place to meet up with the police. I may have missed something though.
Here is the transcript I read.
http://www.examiner.com/node/44935596
Umm no that's not what I got at all. Martin started running away and george was clearly still following him in his truck. Based on that call alone it sounds like Martin was afraid of this guy sitting there staring at him and ran away, and Martin did not stay at the mailboxes even to meet the police. He told the police to call him to find out where he was. You stupid or something?
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
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Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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Bowlartz posted:
Trayvon's family is racing around now deleting all social media accounts and had their lawyer seal his school records. Unfortunately for them Google cache has most of it including drug dealing, self photos of him using gang symbols and him talking about punching a school bus driver just days before his death. The school bus driver incident is now being suggested as the reason he was suspended for 10 days from school and facing expulsion.
None of that information warrants he be shot but certainly does change this image that is being pushed down everyone's throat. He was only 17 but his most recent photos show he had the body of a full grown adult at 6'3 yet the media keeps on using older pictures of him.
Just remember, you weren't there, I wasn't there so we have no clue what happened. On the scene witnesses *at the time of the shooting* mostly back up Zimmerman's version of events according to the police report and from statements made by the special prosecutor reviewing the case. A grand jury will most certainly get to review all of it as well.
What, so now a double bird is a gang sign? 
Or is that only when a black kid does it?
Yes, making stupid gang pics on Facebook clearly means you're OG DAWG! 
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Vydor Posts: 248
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
GrilledCheez posted:
Vydor posted:
Ashmaele posted:
I understand him saying "Ok." I don't understand him continuing to follow the kid after saying "ok." Ok?
Ash, what leads you to believe he did not stop following the kid. From the transcripts I've read, after he told the dispatcher OK, there was no more talk about Travyon or that Zimmerman continued to follow him. It appeared to me, after that Zimmerman and the dispatcher started discussing a place to meet up with the police. I may have missed something though.
Here is the transcript I read.
http://www.examiner.com/node/44935596
Umm no that's not what I got at all. Martin started running away and george was clearly still following him in his truck. Based on that call alone it sounds like Martin was afraid of this guy sitting there staring at him and ran away, and Martin did not stay at the mailboxes even to meet the police. He told the police to call him to find out where he was. You stupid or something?
Wow, that's not what I get from reading that transcript at all.
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
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That's because you don't want it to be true. It's never been in doubt that he followed after being told to stop. AS far as I know Zimmerman admitted it and the GF's phone record confirms it.
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I haven't been following this story beyond laughing at all you outposty lawyers. This happened in a gated community, with private roads and all that? That would certainly change my take on the crazy watch captain's initial actions.
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Vydor Posts: 248
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
vn_nnanji posted:
That's because you don't want it to be true. It's never been in doubt that he followed after being told to stop. AS far as I know Zimmerman admitted it and the GF's phone record confirms it.
From reading that transcript, it doesn't appear to me that he continued to follow him. It appears that he acknowledged them and then proceeded to make plans to meet the police. That being said, I have not read or heard all of the transcripts, but from that one it's clear to me that once told to stop following there is no sign that he continued...at least from the transcript.
edit: And I have no "wants" on this issue. I am just trying to understand why people are saying what they are saying.
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Bowlartz Title: Offical VN Tin Foil Hat Supplier
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
The reason for mentioning Trayvon's Facebook and social media accounts that have been deleted by his family/attorney is that it presents a very different view over the pictures of an 11 and 12 year old Trayvon splashed all over the media. The pictures he posted show a very different persona that includes the drug dealing going on in his Facebook conversations.
Something else that doesn't help is this:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/trayvon-martin-family-looks-trademark-am-trayvon-justice-142131528.html
"Trayvon Martin's mother Sybrina Fulton is seeking to trademark phrases with her son's name.
According to applications filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office by the family's attorney last week, Fulton wants to trademark "I am Trayvon" and "Justice for Trayvon" for use in DVDs and CDs memorializing the slain teenager."
More than enough reason to keep driving the Trayvon gravy train all through the more than willing media outlets.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Zimmerman said that Martin followed him back to his truck, punched him in the mouf, knocked him down to the ground and then climbed on top and started beating him. For Zimmerman's account to be true, they would have been fighting in the street next to Zimmerman's truck. According to the eyewitnesses I have heard and read, they were in an alley between apartment buildings rolling around and fighting, not in the street next to Zimmerman's truck.
If this is the case then Zimmerman's account does not hold up at all.
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