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SaiyanOfDarkness Title: Prince of Saiyans
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Registered: 2005-12-8 13:41:54
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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November Focus Question - Class Feedback (Spells and Abilities) |
TheDonia posted:
Friar: Divine intervention, PR
Midgard:
Skald : New RR5
Problem with a Friar getting DI is that albs already have 2 classes with DI, Mid & Hib do not. For PR, that is for ONLY the main healing class (Healer, Cleric, Druid)
I do agree on a new Skald RR5. It's just Jacina's Sash /use2 ability
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Cydoc Title: Final Fantasy Vault SM
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Date Posted:
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DoorknobMLF posted:
McThompson posted:
eldie, chanter, mentalist: root
RM: any 2nd form of CC
wizard: random chance to explode oneself when bolting
druid, cleric, healer shaman: quickcast
all castesr: quickcast on 15 sec timer
I can tell that your favorite class is.. any tank.
LOL was thinking the same thing.
Also, why come no Friar and Warden quickcast?
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SaiyanOfDarkness Title: Prince of Saiyans
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Registered: 2005-12-8 13:41:54
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Date Posted:
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November Focus Question - Class Feedback (Spells and Abilities) |
Kamlauaut posted:
Necromancer: Group ABS buff ( Shade castable while running),
I do agree actually, since a BD gets a group one under supp spec.
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SaiyanOfDarkness Title: Prince of Saiyans
Posts: 176
Registered: 2005-12-8 13:41:54
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Date Posted:
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Subject:
November Focus Question - Class Feedback (Spells and Abilities) |
Cydoc posted:
DoorknobMLF posted:
McThompson posted:
eldie, chanter, mentalist: root
RM: any 2nd form of CC
wizard: random chance to explode oneself when bolting
druid, cleric, healer shaman: quickcast
all castesr: quickcast on 15 sec timer
I can tell that your favorite class is.. any tank.
LOL was thinking the same thing.
Also, why come no Friar and Warden quickcast?
What about people that have Concentration 3? (30s reuse on forcing quickcast to respawn)
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_Tarel_ Posts: 77
Registered: 2003-9-7 09:04:03
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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November Focus Question - Class Feedback (Spells and Abilities) |
lvl 29 style: Flank
Request the style's effect be changed to stun for 5 seconds instead of 12sec hinder. The other 2 realms have have access to a side stun very early in their career effecting all levels of play especially battlegrounds and endgame. Levels 25 for left axe and 18 for celtic dual respectfully. The style being at lvl 29 would fit since the infiltrator gets more points and has to spec higher to accommodate this style.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
November Focus Question - Class Feedback (Spells and Abilities) |
Meddyck posted:
Eldritch - baseline energy DD in mana so void elds can debuff like runecarvers
But there's a problem with this. Compare a bolt Eldritch with this new DD to a bolt Runie. I haven't looked at it in a while, but i'm pretty sure the only noticeable difference is that Runemasters have access to a PBT, and Eld's get a baseline hib caster stun. You tell me which one is better. Also I don't even remember if the pbt is in the bolt line for runemasters.
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Date Posted:
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November Focus Question - Class Feedback (Spells and Abilities) |
DoorknobMLF posted:
Meddyck posted:
Eldritch - baseline energy DD in mana so void elds can debuff like runecarvers
But there's a problem with this. Compare a bolt Eldritch with this new DD to a bolt Runie. I haven't looked at it in a while, but i'm pretty sure the only noticeable difference is that Runemasters have access to a PBT, and Eld's get a baseline hib caster stun. You tell me which one is better. Also I don't even remember if the pbt is in the bolt line for runemasters.
It isn't. Suppression (which is the line PBT is in) is the utility line, carving is the bolt line.
A 3rd baseline dd for Eldritches would just be to much. Changing the damage type of the void dd makes more sense, but still won't happen. Debuff + dd + bolts + stun on the same caster is to much.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
November Focus Question - Class Feedback (Spells and Abilities) |
Daamien posted:
Feel free to fill out the list below with suggestions. Please keep it short, I don't like having to read through paragraphs when you can just say an existing spell/ability.
What single spell or ability would you like to see added to your class, and which line (if applicable) would you put it in?
Albion:
Armsman lower timer on climbing spikes, tactics 45 shield.
Cabalist pet mez cure
Cleric single instant DD on 30 second timer, single instant mez
Friar some rear snare, crush spec, styles in parry spec line
Infiltrator side stun 2nd in chain, old dragonfang
Mercenary side stun, thrust line revamp
Minstrel thrust revamp, single instant mez, shield spec or better evade.
Necromancer pet pathing fixes
Paladin Old Faith Heal at 46-50 chants spec (like cleric group instant)
Reaver old Levi single step chain
Scout fun as is, maybe thrust styles?
Sorcerer up matter spec damage.
Theurgist make pbt instant cast
Wizard bolt in ice spcline
Heretic
Midgard:
Berseker make zerk mode start at 25% crit chance
Bonedancer
Healer
Hunter lower level rear snare in sword
Runemaster spec DD in RC
Savage instant taunt
Shadowblade new RR5
Shaman update mending
Skald shield spec
Spiritmaster
Thane add a snare to aoe dd hammers
Warrior tactics at 45 shield spec
Valkyrie
Warlock
Hibernia:
Animist
Bard
Blademaster fix TW
Champion more hits
Druid
Eldritch spec DD in void
Enchanter
Hero
Mentalist
Nightshade
Ranger raise CDW growth rates
Valewalker
Warden
Bainshee
Vampiir
Mauler
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d_i_r_t_y Posts: 30
Registered: 2004-5-8 00:59:15
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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November Focus Question - Class Feedback (Spells and Abilities) |
Warriorperson posted:
DoorknobMLF posted:
Meddyck posted:
Eldritch - baseline energy DD in mana so void elds can debuff like runecarvers
But there's a problem with this. Compare a bolt Eldritch with this new DD to a bolt Runie. I haven't looked at it in a while, but i'm pretty sure the only noticeable difference is that Runemasters have access to a PBT, and Eld's get a baseline hib caster stun. You tell me which one is better. Also I don't even remember if the pbt is in the bolt line for runemasters.
It isn't. Suppression (which is the line PBT is in) is the utility line, carving is the bolt line.
A 3rd baseline dd for Eldritches would just be to much. Changing the damage type of the void dd makes more sense, but still won't happen. Debuff + dd + bolts + stun on the same caster is to much.
You mean: Debuffs + dd + bolts + stun + nearsight + disease + snares + good rr5... yeah it's too much. Elds are already pretty much perfect. Void only appears weak because light and mana are so strong.
light spec chanters need love a lot more than elds.
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ArcApt Posts: 52
Registered: 2006-2-15 16:57:37
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Voidritches appear weak because they are. Why would an eld bother with green/blue spells when they can have yellow/red?
In essence, you are right the problem is not only with void anyway, but with hibernia lacking things on its base mage trio+animist now of limited use, partly because of the eld's light and mana specs being overloaded with tools to play with.
You believe a baseline mana nuke would be unfair, but that's just what they gave to mid a while ago. Plus several spec nukes on alb casters(wiz earth and ice specs, earth theurgist)and a few others(WL, BD pets).
Hibernia is the least favored realm when it comes to interesting resists-debuff game dynamics, by far. A baseline nuke would just put the realm more in line with the other 2 realms.
The stun on the base hib trio is probably the curse preventing Mythic from balancing the hib mage classes in this aspect, while the quasi-absence of root and uselessness of the stun on tanks has already hampered the realm's effectiveness in group formats for years, before they gave a root to the bard.
Thank baseline stun for nerfing the realm, and keeping most hib mage speclines in the dump!
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