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Belkiolle Posts: 144
Registered: 2004-1-14 12:02:15
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Larian's come a long way in RPs since apparently.
I don't ever remember him asking for ranger nerfs but I do remember there being some outcry about him getting scout block rate nerfs around the time of the shield patches.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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The problem is not the game but the players. You guys are entrenched and new players are just not welcomed.
One thing that WoW does is it raises the level cap every 2 years basically resetting the game, This is something that has never happened in DAoC.
The game is flawed. It's not made to attract a steady influx of new players.
The game is old.
Although I miss is terribly, I know that if I would re-sub I would end up just running around my house and re-arrangin my Cetus head collection.
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Semi4 Posts: 566
Registered: 2003-8-8 13:58:29
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Ratched posted:
The problem is not the game but the players. You guys are entrenched and new players are just not welcomed.
You are correct that there is a problem with entrenched players but it is wrong to blame people for acting like people. The game is coded to bring out the worst in people. With a little foresight and a little thought concerning the human condition the game could have been coded to bring out the best in people.
One thing that WoW does is it raises the level cap every 2 years basically resetting the game, This is something that has never happened in DAoC.
Raising the level cap is basically having players play a bit to gain higher DPS, higher skills, higher etc . . . DAoC has essentially raised the level cap every year or two by adding RAs, by raising the RA cap and through Xpac abilities/skills gained by playing.
The level cap did not change but the exact same thing happened in a slightly different way.
Increasing the abilities the way that Mythic went about it for DAoC was totally wrong for a game where RvR is the end game. When Mythic essentially raised the level cap it actually added to what you consider the first problem that you list. I can’t see how you can reconcile considering the first thing you list as a problem and then you consider one of the main causes of the first item to actually be beneficial?
Back early on in the game a level 48 could show up to a portal ceremony and be invited to a group before the level 48 even started spamming LFG. That is no longer the case; the way the game is now even pugs will not want a level 48 in their group anymore. It is the huge increase in abilities/gear (an essential cap increase) that contributed to what you first list as a problem.
The game is flawed. It's not made to attract a steady influx of new players.
The game is old.
The game is horribly, tremendously and psychotically flawed but the game is not so old. WoW has over 10 million players and WoW is not so much younger than DAoC. If DAoC were untwisted, it could be a contender again.
Although I miss is terribly, I know that if I would re-sub I would end up just running around my house and re-arrangin my Cetus head collection.
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Semi4 Posts: 566
Registered: 2003-8-8 13:58:29
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Drithe posted:
Semi. You have always been an assassin at heart, not an archer.
Perhaps on the boards I am an assassin, but as for in the game then I wonder why my Caster has the most /played time of any of my toons? After the Caster the next is an Archer, then a Healer, then an Assassin.
You and your companions constant whining helped get the archers nerfed all to hell.
You’re too funny, though not very accurate.
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Isoke Posts: 36
Registered: 2002-4-26 06:35:31
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Ignoring the eternal and been-boring-for-years archer debate (which shouldn't be taking place on this thread =P):
If they updated the UI and graphics and THEN engaged in a bit of advertising targeting PvP fans who are frustrated with WoW and disappointed in Rift, they might just have some success.
But it appears that EA has something approaching zero interest in investing anything at all in DAOC. If there's anyone left on staff who really gives a damn about the game (and I doubt that), they'd probably have to launch an internal campaign, backed up by data, to persuade the powers that be that resources invested beyond bare-bones maintenance would pay off. With SWTOR (which looks awful) on the horizon and EA clearly hoping that it will genuinely compete with WoW, I just don't see it happening.
I sure wish things were different, though. I'm genuinely tempted to play DAOC again, at least until GW2 releases.
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kyrv Title: Lord Logicus
Posts: 263
Registered: 2002-1-31 13:09:58
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1/1/00 12:01am
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Wow semi4 with the hammer. You rock.
My thoughts as a some time and casual consumer of MMORPGs. I find this board pretty helpful whenever I needed advice.
In game, well, there's actually a lot of pretty nice people and helpful people but I don't think they are the majority. It's a competitive game that's been out a long time and there is a lot of elitism, of course.
Mark Jacobs said several times over the years that when they did advertise it did not pan out financially. I agree with others that some things would need to be changed for today's gamer to readily accept this game.
I do think the concept is different enough that, were it fixed up a bit, not a ton, but some, players may try it and actually like it. You still have the entrance barrier however an influx of new players would actually be good as they would have other new players to group with, if nothing else.
Also like Isoke, I'm tempted to play for a month or so again post-Rift pre GW2/SWTOR.
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Cydoc Title: Final Fantasy Vault SM
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Posts: 1,175
Registered: 2008-9-23 19:33:50
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1/1/00 12:01am
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Advertising?
Things have to be in working order before you advertise.
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Garbmut Posts: 68
Registered: 2009-11-25 02:30:34
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1/1/00 12:01am
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There are 2 real changes they need to make.
First, new/past gamers are not going to pay $15 a month for a maintenance mode 10 year old dying game. I don't really understand how people try to justify this price, and then wonder why the game is not going anywhere. Mythic either needs to remove the subscription fee, or they need to find new ways to get fresh blood to subscribe without charging a premium at them. Free to play models would really resurrect the game, and I'd rather be faced with some of this gimmicky cash shop stuff in the game than be forced to pay $15 when its not worth it to me. I am willing to pay sub fees, but only for new and relevant mmos, and daoc is long past that point.
Second, they need to upgrade the movement controls, interface, and GUI. This could take some serious programming (although some believe you buy a game engine and it does all of this for you), but nothing on the scale of making a new expansion. The benefits would outweigh the costs and really give daoc a chance to compete with other games in the genre.
Also, either origins or a readjustment of the NF and RvR mechanics would make the game more engaging. NF is very uninspiring and the teleporting to battles ruins the organic feel that original RvR had.
As for the other ideas:
-Origins would bring back a huge amount of old players. I don't really care if it hurts the ywain population since that server is not going anywhere but down in its current state. As a large amount of old players would return, its possible they would bring new players with them. This would be a change that allows Mythic to capitalize on other more fundamental changes needed to resurrect daoc.
-Advertising would help, but only if you aren't advertising a polished turd. They need to make real changes and improvements to the game before they should ever consider advertising. They missed the advertising boat before, and the only way they can get it to come back is if they actually have something new to advertise.
-Graphics are not that bad, and I don't think they are a big barrier for new players. Old players probably like them. I have seen many new small scale mmos with worse graphics come out in recent years. Of course, if there were resources available, a graphics upgrade would do wonders, but this is a bit unrealistic.
-New items, classes, and zones are nice but at this point I don't think it will revitalize daoc. Mythic still adds new stuff every so often and it did not do much. The game is so big that most players who have not played before or left a long time ago would have years worth of content to play on. This would be viable to maintain a population only after they were able to resurrect the game.
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ckgreed Posts: 99
Registered: 2005-11-28 14:39:22
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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The guy who suggested putting a trial disc in every EA game is dead on the money. Sierra put a free trial for The Realm Online in a Lords of the Realm II box 15 years or so ago and my leisure time has been dominated by MMOs ever since.
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Jaysun_ Posts: 6
Registered: 2003-3-19 12:38:41
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Poll: The resurrection of Dark Age of Camelot ~ |
Jocke-Percival posted:
Game died with patch 1.83.
Was fun before that but after, only action you could find where at the bridges.
This
I remember Jocke from Percival, the best server-back in the day!
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