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Docmandu  Posts: 240
Registered: 2005-7-12 00:54:17
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Vladasa posted:
Also, eww on Det 9 Merc. Charge 5 and forget wasting points =o) on Det.
If you only have Charge 5 on your light tank, remind me to never group you then! Anyway totally beside the point...
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Docmandu Posts: 240
Registered: 2005-7-12 00:54:17
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Telankaa posted:
Vladasa posted:
Docmandu posted:
Strange.. but mid/alb casters can actually kill people without "hard" CC on the same class that is doing the DPS... go figure!
All casters have a HARD CC, Roots and Mezes (With 2 alb casters gaining both as well as the SM).
I don't see why you have such a hard time with Stun Nuke Nuke, it's a very simplistic way of killing people... on my Mentalist I only kill really weak players with stun nuke nuke... the better ones I have to work to kill.
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Date Posted:
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Docmandu posted:
SharpAnubis462 posted:
Roots.
Break on first damage... yeps I know... your point?
Docmandu posted:
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But judging from the comments, the stun is useless... makes you wonder why they all cast it in the first place...
This was my point:
SharpAnubis462 posted:
Why wouldn't you use it? Chances are it's your only form of hard CC, saying it's OP because hib casters use it all the time is pretty silly.
Of course they're going to use it all the time, they most likely have no other options as far as CC goes. Just because something gets used almost every fight doesn't mean it's overpowered. Regardless of how I feel about baseline stun (I always thought it should get switched to a root and the stun given to Druids, just to stop the complaining), it's a bad argument.
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Docmandu Posts: 240
Registered: 2005-7-12 00:54:17
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SharpAnubis462 posted:
Docmandu posted:
SharpAnubis462 posted:
Roots.
Break on first damage... yeps I know... your point?
Docmandu posted:
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But judging from the comments, the stun is useless... makes you wonder why they all cast it in the first place...
This was my point:
SharpAnubis462 posted:
Why wouldn't you use it? Chances are it's your only form of hard CC, saying it's OP because hib casters use it all the time is pretty silly.
Of course they're going to use it all the time, they most likely have no other options as far as CC goes. Just because something gets used almost every fight doesn't mean it's overpowered.
Which brings me back to the first point... neither mids or albs get a free 5-6 seconds (after resists) to nuke somebody down. Mythic should have long swapped that spell with a root, instead of giving the root to bards. Heck.. give the bard a single target stun and give elds/ments/chanters a single target root. (or instead of doing the swap with a bard.. do it with an animist... but I'm sure many animists wouldn't like that one  )
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Vyxar  Title: Arbiter Elegantiarum
Posts: 329
Registered: 2002-3-13 04:54:08
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Docmandu posted:
Vladasa posted:
I will respectively disagree with you on the Warlock Issue.
I have a harder time on my Mentalist then I have on my Warlock, big time... Even with my stun and gun... also my high delve nuke and same type damage debuff.
Warlock that catches me with my pants down, I at least have a chance to run the other way... hib caster just fries my nutz unless I have purge up. (unless I'm on my merc, in which case, I laugh at the silly hib trying to stun nuke nuke a det9 stoicism tank, which is like.. all of em)
Usually whines about stun/nuke can just be dismissed with a '2003 is calling..' reference but this follow-up post is quite fascinating in an evolutionary/anthropological game view because it clearly demonstrates how the absolute worst players in the game are long time players who simply lack the brain power to adapt.
1. Purge 5(3) is on a 5 minute timer (READ less than det9(5)). Spend the points if your play style is such that you don't/won't have a heal for the ~6 seconds you'll be stunned.
2. Getting caught with your pants down is on you it's just a nice way of saying you played poorly. And if you can manage to repeatedly get caught with your pants down in 2x in < 5 minutes then DAOC might not be the game for you. Might I suggest..
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valmar_kw Posts: 55
Registered: 2002-2-19 20:32:47
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People still complain about stun nukes? I think the last time I died simply because of baseline stun was like 2005.
And funny that you say that you laugh at Hib casters when you're on your tank, but cry overpowered when you're not. Maybe that's how the game is supposed to be? Maybe from that caster's PoV, Charge5 and Det9 are overpowered...
Keep your pants up from now on...
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Docmandu Posts: 240
Registered: 2005-7-12 00:54:17
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Vyxar posted:
1. Purge 5(3) is on a 5 minute timer (READ less than det9(5)). Spend the points if your play style is such that you don't/won't have a heal for the ~6 seconds you'll be stunned.
2. Getting caught with your pants down is on you it's just a nice way of saying you played poorly. And if you can manage to repeatedly get caught with your pants down in 2x in < 5 minutes then DAOC might not be the game for you. Might I suggest..
1. Ofcourse you could think twice and realize that stun nuke nuke isn't about stoicism/det tanks... as for Purge 5... so mids/albs needs to invest that many RA points to have a chance if they run solo into a hib stun caster.. great.. sounds balanced.. let's hope you won't need the purge to actually outplay the other party when he uses disease, nearsight, ... heaven forbid you actually would need some smarts to win a fight.
2. 170 L50 hibs in thid... makes it kind of hard to not get caught with your pants down... heck with the lag you'll get stunned before you even see the other player.
Anyway it's your typical 'leet response... in the ideal world where everybody runs a balanced group in the open field, stun nuke nuke isn't a problem.. and it wouldn't be a problem for that type of players if that spell was removed anyway, so why does it matter that much to you then anyway?!
Shield slam, which is a 42 spec pt ability and requires melee range has finally been toned down... yet the 8s free 1500 range stun on classes that do way more damage in the duration of that stun, get to keep it.
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Docmandu Posts: 240
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valmar_kw posted:
And funny that you say that you laugh at Hib casters when you're on your tank, but cry overpowered when you're not. Maybe that's how the game is supposed to be? Maybe from that caster's PoV, Charge5 and Det9 are overpowered...
laugh at the hib caster casting stun on the stoicism tank... you seem to have forgotten that bit...
If the hib caster wouldn't just stand there to cast his stun on a det9/charge5 tank, he would actually stand a chance...
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PasswordLLOTH  Title: i can haz title
Posts: 517
Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
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only bads complain about anything in daoc
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Docmandu Posts: 240
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PasswordLLOTH posted:
only bads complain about anything in daoc
30 more!
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