I'm gonna go back to what I said before, in order for the game to be balanced, there is supposed to be a substantial DPS gap between stealthers and light tanks. If the stealthers are not even using PA/CD and equaling or surpassing light tank damage, something has to be changed. Whoever did the poison revamp seems to have forgotten that you add together melee + poison damage for net DPS.





Armsmen, warriors, and heros are pretty much equal to each other. Warriors have worse astral 2handers but they make up for it in other ways so it's mostly a tossup. Slam should probably go to 8 seconds since the introduction of celerity charges, definitely not lower than 7s though since everyone has easy to land 5s side stuns.

The moment that mythic decided that stealth was equivalently going to be invisibility assassins should have gotten the survivability of a mage class and archers DPS should have been drastically reduced. No 1 class should have 1)invisibility 2) Very High DPS and 3) Good Survivability. This statement is completely independent of whether the class/role is overpowered in the current environment.

 

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It is an ASSASSIN class. They aren't meant to do the deed and get out asap. They aren't mean to sit around waiting for 8 people running at them to kill them. geesh, do you even watch movies? So you died to an assassin, move along.

 

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What a horrible rationalization attempt that is. It doesn't matter what the title of the class is for determining game balance. If everyone used your kindergarten psychology, there would be people saying "WTF? My class is called Armsman, why doesn't it have 12 arms???"

Once again, it's pretty clear from the first day DAoC launched that there should be a significant DPS gap between stealthers and light tanks which is not the case anymore. You have stealthers doing just as much if not more without even using PA/CD. Then you have vanish which gets rid of all their supposed survivability downfalls.

I don't know if this helps in this convo at all but my SB rolbeig i specific built him to handle heavy and light heavy tanks. I don't weapon swap or anything thing like that (truth be told im to lazy to do it) but i have enough hit points and str to take a hit and give even more of a hit. At rr5 I was duelling rr 7-11 warriors and light tanks and normally could get them if they messed up even in the slightest, but if they did everything perfect and used all their toys I could still almost kill them.


From talking to other stealthers in other realms a lot of them did the same as me to build to hit tanks. But the duel weilding tanks (zerkers, mercs,BMs) still and always have out damage us. WE just have the toys for fast bursts of super damage to out damage them for a short time.


Basically what i'm saying is ur arms sucks or your playing bad. If I find a heavy or light tank that isn't playing right i'll keep hitting them but I have run into a ton that i won't even touch unless im with 1 other or 2 other ppl. Even a well play friar about rr5 i won't touch.


I'll probably get flak for writing this but what ever its the internet lol

3/10 score on troll.

 

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Another person who can't read English. This thread has nothing to do with me, armsmen, or any of the other 20 classes I play. It has to do with the fact that there is supposed to be a substantial difference in DPS between stealthers and light tanks/pure melee but stealthers without even using PA/CD are coming extremely close or even exceeding them.

Before the shield nerf it wasn't really obvious but now anybody can see it.





It's probably easier to kill one playing a shadowblade than a zerker so that just shows the delusional world stealthers are living in today.

Why dont you go make a SB, get him some RR's then come back to me...

B4 the duel-wield loving I wouldnt even bother attacking an armsman, I am still reluctant to hit one...

You do not seem to understand the full scope of things, why would I want to fight a guy that has a good chance to block my perf (and yes it does happen)?

Another question, why would I want to attack a guy that swings just about every hit for the same damage as my perf? (and yes this does happen as well, Freakzillathebabe used to hit me for roughly 1000 dmg every round!!)

Only thing about stealthers that needs a nerf is the Nightshade nukes.

[personal attack]

 

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