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DarkPCK  2 stars
Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
UnscrupulousDulu posted:

I still think BAOD works good in tank groups, especially if you happen to encounter a bomb group, wink wink.


If you're getting bombed, BA is not going to help. Good bomb groups make a determination if a group is able to be successfully or not. If not, then they extend for space and debuff nuke with range, at which point you don't need BA because you should be splitting and interrupting until support is CCed out to get kills. Getting an RA to help with very few niche groups isn't a particularly good use of points.


UnscrupulousDulu posted:

Still, even if it's not as great as I made it sound... BAOD/TWF/Juggernaught/Allure of Death are a strong set of RA's on one class. Certainly not "uninspired" or weak.


It's not the RAs that make it weak.

DarkPCK posted:

The pet split assist nerf two patches ago, and the body debuff fix last patch have really hurt BDs which are an interrupt class.

 

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b0xy  2 stars
Posts: 314
Registered: 2009-3-21 20:06:56
As a BD you should have no trouble finding groups. If you're just another caster spamming /LFG, there's a subtle science to getting picked up. Get TWF3 and advertise that you have it, make sure you specify that you are ready to get on vent, say that you're RR8, no one's going to check. If your problem is finding others to play with, then get into a guild that's in a big alliance. If you say, "Hey, any Skalds want to duo around NF for a while?" someone will say yes. Then if you can find a shaman and 2 healers you've pretty much got yourself a group. All you then have to do is sift through the million DPS casters and zerkers in /LFG until you find what you need.

Also, if you're still in the BGs I'd be MORE than happy to troll around with you there. I'll be on within the hour with a friend of mine. Post what you have and we'll meet up.

EDIT: Ooooooo yeah also don't be Suppression. 9% group ABS and a harder hitting interrupt isn't worth your pets not doing anything for your group.

 

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UnscrupulousDulu  1 star
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Dark, the OP said the RA's were "uninspired". My contention is that the RA's are fine. Yes, the class needs some tweaking, but the RA's are not the problem imo.

I'd start by undoing the mandatory assisting of pets nerf. There are other small fixes, but those are for another thread.
DarkPCK  2 stars
Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
UnscrupulousDulu posted:

Dark, the OP said the RA's were "uninspired". My contention is that the RA's are fine. Yes, the class needs some tweaking, but the RA's are not the problem imo.


And you also said BA is "god mode" and "crucial" to tank groups.

 

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Vyxar  2 stars
Title: Arbiter Elegantiarum
Posts: 329
Registered: 2002-3-13 04:54:08
Pillowjunky posted:

The same reasons I quit 5+ years ago:

1.
It's almost impossible to find a group unless you have a very specific class. Right now I have a few level 49.5 toons and a level 50 BD. I really enjoyed the BD in the battlegrounds, but once I hit 50 two days ago, he literally got no group in the frontiers.



getting a group is about 7 other people wanting to play with you. you have a choice.. play something they want or something you want or some kind of compromise...

Pillowjunky posted:

2.
Since I can never find a group, I decided to hit SHIFT-M and run to the little fire action on the realm map. When the fire is in my realm it's not so bad. Once in awhile I'll attack a few albs, die, and get some RPS. I never really killed anyone as of yet. I feel more like a leech than a contributor. Normally I'd get off one or two spells, die, then rezz at the gate and wait for the few hundred Rps to role in. I never lived long enough to get the Rps at the point of engagement. When the fire action is in another realm, I cringe in disgust. The 5 to 10 minute ride (this includes getting buffs and summoning pets) to get to my destination only to die in a few seconds is not my idea of time well spent.



wah wah.


Pillowjunky posted:

3.
Stun mechanics. I don't mind mezz, but casted stun is just way over the top. Almost all my deaths occurred during a stun in which I could not even get an insta spell off. My resists are probably a tad low at 28 to 48%.



you know... most people die as a result of damage! maybe we should remove that too!


Pillowjunky posted:

4.
New frontiers is simply too big for the current population. I'm not sure if it's possible for them to shrink each realm's NF area by 50%.



the population is better suited for NF than it was on the old servers or old clusters or just about any other time it's not likely they can really do a massive change and it probably would have as many or more problems.


5/6/7

yes bd's are sort of nerfed it was unfortunate that a few years ago they made them more pet dependent instead of the really old way. Everyone hates pets.

casters are easily countered. i'm sorry you play one and whine about it not being good enough yet it's overpowered when another caster kills you.

laby has far less people but in a much smaller space.

 

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TropicanaJones  1 star
Posts: 220
Registered: 2008-9-23 23:57:38
Pillowjunky posted:

The same reasons I quit 5+ years ago:

3.
Stun mechanics. I don't mind mezz, but casted stun is just way over the top. Almost all my deaths occurred during a stun in which I could not even get an insta spell off. My resists are probably a tad low at 28 to 48%.



Really? Coming from a Mid player that has the best casted stun of all the realms?

Also, all of your deaths occur when you are a stunned, because more often than not, when you get stunned it's an indication that you are about to be mass assist targeted and nuked to hell. You don't mind mezz because when you are mezzed you are not a target LOL.

 

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UnscrupulousDulu  1 star
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DarkPCK posted:

UnscrupulousDulu posted:

Dark, the OP said the RA's were "uninspired". My contention is that the RA's are fine. Yes, the class needs some tweaking, but the RA's are not the problem imo.


And you also said BA is "god mode" and "crucial" to tank groups.



What is wrong with you? Why are you so hostile and negative? Can't you stop being a troll for one thread and be helpful to someone?

I said bedazzling aura with red resists is god mod against casters. I'd consider 50~ +40% resistance to magic damage "god mode", but that's subjective. I said its a crucial RA, not crucial to tank groups. I feel if you are a BD, and want a group in NF, you should bring purge, twf 1+, and baod 4+.
DarkPCK  2 stars
Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
UnscrupulousDulu posted:

DarkPCK posted:

UnscrupulousDulu posted:

Dark, the OP said the RA's were "uninspired". My contention is that the RA's are fine. Yes, the class needs some tweaking, but the RA's are not the problem imo.


And you also said BA is "god mode" and "crucial" to tank groups.



What is wrong with you? Why are you so hostile and negative? Can't you stop being a troll for one thread and be helpful to someone?

I said bedazzling aura with red resists is god mod against casters. I'd consider 50~ +40% resistance to magic damage "god mode", but that's subjective. I said its a crucial RA, not crucial to tank groups. I feel if you are a BD, and want a group in NF, you should bring purge, twf 1+, and baod 4+.


It's hostile to refute others' claims . I was explaining the relevance behind my posts (which is the opposite of trolling, by the way). And nothing I post will help this person.

 

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Pillowjunky
Posts: 45
Registered: 2008-6-13 06:30:13
For those laughing at PvP in WoW, it did have one advantage. The endgame BGs let anyone enter, and it forced you into a group. Now I know what most of you are thinking. That word FORCED group is not a good thing. Well, you are right! You already have the option of creating a pre-made group of your own before queueing for a BG. No forced group for you. Most players randomly joined, so you can take your elitism and shove it. That's the reason DAoC population will never sustain it's playerbase. Endgame needs a major adjustment.

Perhaps DAoC can learn something from this? Create an option that auto-creates groups upon entering BGs and New Frontiers. You can turn it off if you have your own pre-made groups. Nobody will force you into a group if you already have one of your own. Also give players the option of dropping the group should they choose. That's the key.

In all honesty, I had more fun in Arathi Basin than I'm having in endgame DAoC new frontiers. Just logged off another night of DAoC and literally found no group. I followed a mini-zerg around for approximately 98 minutes and earned about 3.5k RPs spamming the nearest enemy target keybinding and lifetap at keeps because enemies died super fast.

I know 8 mans can be fun. I was part of plenty of them in BGs. I know solo fights can also be fun, but those are rare to come across in NF. And I already made one mistake of forgetting to turn off my experience at 3L0. I can't go back and fix that.

I feel like the dorky kid in gym class nobody wants to pick.
UnscrupulousDulu  1 star
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You're 3L0 in NF, and wondering why you are struggling?

You still haven't answered as to what your spec is, and what RA's you're running.

Trying to help you here...

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