to address your edit (edit? edits don't bump your post count) wasn't there a plugin that did that? refuse to work if some other plugin the author didn't like was also running (or installed, I don't recall exactly)?


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Thank you Arch-Magi, and also all those of you that have uninstalled my It! programs because you use a combat macro.


I fully understand your right to combat macro (attended), which is why as a Decal Dev I supported Elgar as a pre-alpha tester, even though I strongly disagree with that program. His programs have made some attempts to prevent unattended macroing, which is why he was admitted, and Lifetank was not.


And though you have that right, I personally feel that it is bad for the game, and bad for the players using it, and do not want to support it in any way with my personal plugins.


Since I rarely get donations for It! programs, the 'best' thanks people can give me when they use these programs is to not install or use programs capable of combat macroing.


The only people I have issues with are those that use my programs without honoring the license agreement. I really wish they wouldn't.


I have considered making It! aware, however not by crashing out of AC or any potentially harmful action, just simply disable their functionality when a program capable of combat macroing is installed.


Sure, it could be worked around, but honestly, why bother? There are alternatives to virtually everything I've written, using those is easier than hacking It!


My programs are to give those that support a combat macro free environment, but still like the convenience of playing aids, an option that does not support the combat macro development.


P.S. According to Ibn, the website mistakenly posted the AC2 CoC instead of the AC CoC (checking wording verifies this). Whether this was indeed a mistake, or whether it was on purpose I don't know, but I don't believe Ibn would have any reason to lie. My post WAS meant to raise somewhat of an alarm, since more reasonable posts on the Turbine boards were getting deleted or locked with a 'nothing is wrong, life is normal' type response, which it was not. The meaning HAD changed, whether accidentally or on purpose, I don't know. But according to the published CoC, most purposes of Decal would NOT have been legal, so we needed clarification as to the intent. Because if Turbine really HAD wanted to shut Decal down, we would have done so. The post served it's purpose. In my opinion, it did not force Turbine to capitulate, but did force them to clarify their intents.

I don';tknow why, this always l;eads to eltank as being the bad guy...Elgar has taken more steps the anyone else to combat UCM. Instead of incessantly going after Tank, why not mention for a change LTX and ACTOOL. Those are things that allow people to UCM now, not Tank.

 

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I don't think he's done more to combat UCM than anyone else.


that's a very subjective thing as well... because in my mind, even though I really dislike SweetMary, I feel she has done a lot to combat UCM. I wouldn't argue that she's done more than anyone, but I think she's done a lot.


I could also argue that a lor of the Decal Devs have done a lot to combat UCM. While the actual work may not be publically seen, most of the devs have put in some form of an effort to uphold the CoC.


I myself have done a lot in terms of advocating against UCM to attempt to combat UCM. While my actions are specifical vocal and may not be tangible, I feel that I have done a lot of work to advocate against CoC violations and UCM.


And this isn't about Tank in specific. As Gouru has stated, it's about ANY plugin capable of Combat Macroing. There is an acceptible level of automation, and Gouru has set that limit to "Melee mode" meaning single keypress per monster.


ELTank and LifeTank do not fulfill this requirement.

 

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Isn't Robochef being worked on now? There are also plenty of ACTool macros for making craft goods. If you have a problem with the It! agreement, surely there are alternatives you can use...

 

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Good lord, saying a perma-banned, hacker who makes my posts sound like praises of joy has done "more things to combat UCMing" is like saying .... no, nevermind, I won't say it.


I can't even believe you said that.





Yes, and I will do things by hand until it comes out.

<< Good lord, saying a perma-banned, hacker who makes my posts sound like praises of joy has done "more things to combat UCMing" is like saying .... no, nevermind, I won't say it. >>


Go ahead and say it. I agree with Drakier on this. While I don't approve of SM's methods, she probably did more to try and stop UCM'ing then many other people.

 

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Yeah, apparently they worked, because everyone knows, no one UCMs anymore.


/sarcasm off

just so i am clear i can still have Make It an tank installed at the same time, i dont macro, just use it for my alchemy for elixirs and arrows...to speed up my down time.


so the Make it issue where i crash the game is not related or related currently?

 

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