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Arch_Magi  Title: The Lord of Chaos
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Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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... think again.
http://forums.acdev.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3868
"is there a posted copy of find it's license agreement without having to install the program?" - Sollux
"  our welcome. And for those curious, there are really only two relevant issues.
One, you agree to not use the program on machines with programs installed that are capable of Combat Macroing. The two most obvious of these are El Tank and Lifetank. In a discussion elsewhere on these boards, I described my reasoning for this wording.
Two, you agree not to redistribute the software." - Gouru (Decal Dev)
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Well, the reply from Gouru and the other Decal Devs ought to be good. So, as part of the Decal Agreement, you agree not to install ElTank and LifeTank? |
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Not sure what happened but I think those posts were moved from a thread on Gouru's It! plugins. I think the license he is talking about is not for decal but only his plugins. I'm sure futher clarification will be added by a decal dev.
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Arch_Magi Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts: 827
Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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FYI: If you use xTank, you can not use any of the "It's" plugins. |
Kyuzo. posted:
Not sure what happened but I think those posts were moved from a thread on Gouru's It! plugins. I think the license he is talking about is not for decal but only his plugins. I'm sure futher clarification will be added by a decal dev.
Ok, then if that is the case, I guess I won't be using and if Gouru's plugins. Because I will not uninstall LifeTank and ElTank, and I wouldn't want to violate his "license agreement".
IMO, that is one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. But then again he is the author, he has that right.
Just want to make people aware of Gouru's rules.
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If they (Decal Devs) wanted to do their best to get rid of those plugins, then for starters they wouldn't have Elgarl as part of the private alpha team to help spot issues.
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Arch_Magi Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts: 827
Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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Maddy_ACEDL posted:
If they (Decal Devs) wanted to do their best to get rid of those plugins, then for starters they wouldn't have Elgarl as part of the private alpha team to help spot issues.
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There, I changed the title. Better?
What is even better is this gem ...
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject:
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hehe, at least It! was disabled.
I should probably clarify that in my agreement. In my mind, using Sort It! to sort stuff that ElTank picked up is 'using them together' even if they are not running at the same time. Using Make It! to make arrows that Lifetank uses later when macroing is 'using them togeither' even if not run at the same time. So 'in my mind' having both installed is 'using them together', but I perhaps did not make that clear in my license messages.
Just so people know...though I admit El Tank's right to exist, I am still against combat macroing that uses any less keypresses than can can be done by a standard melee toon. My personal world would be a much happier place if I didn't have to listen to El Tank reports in every fellow I join, so I'd prefer it not be installed at all.
In support of my beliefs, I ask that people that wish to use my time, code and work in-game to respect my beliefs and not use my programs if you also use combat-macro capable programs.
Apparently you can't use arrows made by someone using Make It! if you use xTank. I wonder how people will know if the arrows that they buy off a bot in the /marketplace are made with that program or not?
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No, you still got a few mistakes, most glaring:
" So, as part of the Decal Agreement, you agree not to install ElTank and LifeTank?"
It is part of the It! plugin agreements, not Decal.
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The Bottom line, for me(IMHO), is that I am gonna continue doing what I do, and  with the rest. As long as what I am doing in game, is in adherence with the CoC, then yall "Aint got a thing to say.... There.... 'nuff' said.
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Gouru doesn't like combat macroing plugins.
This can't possibly be news to you, or to many other people who read this board.
Therefore, you're just trying to stir up excrement as usual.
Maddy_ACEDL posted:
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I have to admit, with all the past issues between the Decal Devs and Elgar, I was both happy and quite surprised about that...
I have even seen posts by decal devs that have praised Elgar for his efforts...
In case you are not sure, this is to praise the Decal Devs for taking that step.
In the case of Gouru and his license agreement, they are his plugins, his efforts, he can limit them as he wishes... just as Elgar has done in his EULA in asking that people not use his work to break the Turbine CoC...
I will also posit that find it and make it can be used to UCM (by the definition posted by Ibn so long ago) because if you are running a macro while affecting combat and not at the keyboard ready to respond, you are a UCM...
As for Arch-Magi choosing Eltank over Make-it, that is his choice, and that he has the honor to uninstall or not install the "It" plugins is praiseworthy... that he attacks the work of Gouru mitigates that praise.
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Bala: that is just selfish.
you're basically saying "I'll do what I want, and screw everyone else" which is a completely selfish way of looking at the world.
Gouru has put a TON of time and effort into something, and you should at least respect his wishes... I'd LOVE to see you put as much time and dedication into something as Gouru has, release it publically, then have every selfish person use it against your wishes... maybe then you might get a small fraction of what I'm saying... then again.. probably not.
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